my spawn (marble)

[gko]

Hi, i am new here..would just like to share my spawn..from a marble female and black copper male. They are abt 2 mths old. Any comments. :)

[dotaxedot]

Nice, imbellis plakat?

[gko]

yes..these are imbellis plakat. :)

Nice, imbellis plakat?

[qwerty99]

good, very good, like it

[BaHamuT340]

thats really nice
i like the first one(the ont to the left of the black one)

[cheekoon]

very interesting cross.

gko, is the whole spawn marbles? tis shows that marble gene much more dominant over copper's. it would be a good reference for all of us.

[gko]

cheekoon, is a very small spawn abt 20 pcs..only two resemble the father (copper black) the rest are of marble gene.

very interesting cross.

gko, is the whole spawn marbles? tis shows that marble gene much more dominant over copper's. it would be a good reference for all of us.

[cwtan12]

cheekoon, is a very small spawn abt 20 pcs..only two resemble the father (copper black) the rest are of marble gene.

After seeing your spawn I can say that all the 20 pcs are beautiful in their own way. A good small spawn of 20 pcs is much better than big spawn.

[gko]

thanks bro :)

After seeing your spawn I can say that all the 20 pcs are beautiful in their own way. A good small spawn of 20 pcs is much better than big spawn.

[::Ñí©k::]

Very nice spawn! :D

[cyberboi]

very interesting cross.

gko, is the whole spawn marbles? tis shows that marble gene much more dominant over copper's. it would be a good reference for all of us.

cheekoon,

marbles r not dominant over coppers. usually in a bigger spawn of abt 200 pcs, u tend to c at least 70% of solid colour imbellis, i.e., if that is the F1 of e cross. e line can be further stabilised, but will take alot of time.

[cheekoon]

cheekoon,

marbles r not dominant over coppers. usually in a bigger spawn of abt 200 pcs, u tend to c at least 70% of solid colour imbellis, i.e., if that is the F1 of e cross. e line can be further stabilised, but will take alot of time.

darren, got many question to ask u! :D

marble x copper = solid imbellis color? when u mentioned solid imbellis, r u referring to copper? or the original imbellis color - black base body with green irid pearls? u also talked about stabilzation of the cross but actually wat was the objective of such cross?

so can i conclude that gko's spawn result is a rare case with so many marbles?

[cyberboi]

darren, got many question to ask u! :D

marble x copper = solid imbellis color? when u mentioned solid imbellis, r u referring to copper? or the original imbellis color - black base body with green irid pearls? u also talked about stabilzation of the cross but actually wat was the objective of such cross?

so can i conclude that gko's spawn result is a rare case with so many marbles?

hi Chee Koon,

marble x copper = a variation of imbellis (majority) n marble imbellis (minority). so far after i've done so many crosses, that's e result. usually, at e beginning, u tend to see very little marble imbellis. in fact, in a spawn of 200pcs, abt 5-10. e time that e colour changes is usually during jarring time, and afew wks after jarring.

copper has many different variations, as u noe, imbellis haf 3 main colours, red, blue n green. red wash will b very common in this case, as marbles usually haf reds in them. as for green n blue, u realise mani imbellis outcrosses usually haf green n blue bases? even in aquabid, those monster plakats, although many r white based, but u'll definitely see blue n green, or blue/green on e fish.

my 1st fancy imbellis outcross was a relatively small spawn, abt 40 fries. i guess it was luck that i've got more than 50% of fancy imbellis. but 1 problem here, their colour can change from solid colour to marbles, they also can change back to solid colours. since gko's spawn also had similar results, i think it's got something to do with the genes n i think it isn't much of luck anymore.

if sucha small spawn can produce so much, is it possible to conclude that big spawns haf e same results? NO. u might only get e same amt of fancy imbellis u would get in a spawn of 40, as in e spawn of 200.

after trying so many times, fancy plakats x imbellis would not give desirable results, it results in alot of 'extra' fishes. n surprisingly, e fancy imbellis offsprings would usually gif u average to above average finnages! e best cross i've done so far is monster plakat x imbellis. although there weren't so many monster plakats, but e other imbellis had very thick masking. almost 90% of e fishes r masked.

actually e objective of these crosses r up 2 e breeder's likes n dislikes. some breeders, 1 live example here is Nick, he likes monster/fancy imbellis, therefore he will keep trying. as for me, i wanna c something new, i want to try to create some breakthroughs, cos sit in BK for too long last time, seen alot of standard colour fishes, but neva get to see 'fresh' things. furthermore, these r results of my hardwork, it definitely beats buying my dream fish.

e best way to stablise e line, from my so called 'experiments', is to get monster plakat males to cross into e line. females aren't so reliable in this case, cos they aren't readily available in LBS(s). buying from homebreeders would be a result from monster plakat(mI) x imbellis(II) spawn. if u're trying to cross it into ur own line, it would be (mI:II) x (mI:II), as in this case, juz my deduction, imbellis is e dominant gene. e results would bring u back to square 1.

whereas, if u cross in another monster plakat, it would be (mI) x (mI:II). this would definitely increase e chances, as there is e presence of another (m) genes to stabilize e other (m) genes.

i hope u understand wad i trying 2 sae, cos i've lost touch with BIO for 2 yrs alrd. :D

[GOOD]

Nice spawn.

[BettaFaNatiC]

love the top left one :)

[gko]

another pic from the same spawn :)