View Full Version : Review on Resun FBF-1000
nim75sg
23-08-2004, 09:33 PM
Got my hands on 2 units of the Resun FBF-1000 as I am deploying them for my "old" 6'x2'x2' tank to get rid of the unsightly look of RowaPhos n Chemi-Pure which are just dumped in the return chamber.
There are two models available:
FBF-500 for tank capacity below 500litres
FBF-1000 for tank capacity greater than 500lites
My first reaction of this the workmanship for the casing is value for money but disappointed with the instructions which was just a piece of paper. Well can't really complain for $27. Right?
To connection this FBF unit .. the following are required:
1) A small pump 600 L/H
2) Rubber Hosing size 16/22mm
3) Step-down hose converter 16/22mm to 12/16mm
Reason for item 3 is that most small pumps are having hose size of 12/16mm whereas the FBF-1000 inlet/outlet requires hoses size 16/22mm
Here is the pic of the FBF-1000:
nim75sg
23-08-2004, 09:38 PM
Like all china-made products, there is a thin film of oil on the threads of the both top and bottom covers which can be removed for cleaning.
The unit came with some white sand and 2 transparent hard plastic tubing. As seen from the photo below, all the items required are need to connect the FBF-1000.
The 2 different sizes of Eheim hoses are shown together with the Eheim Compact 600 pump including the hose converter.
nim75sg
23-08-2004, 10:08 PM
Removing the top and bottom cover needs some "mini brute" strength as they are both damn tight. I guess it is brand new and "never been used before" but finally managed to remove and pour away all the white sand.
Washed the inside of the casing and as usual there is a thin film of oil inside the top and bottom black cover. Likewise for the black sponges (2 pcs for the bottom and 1 pc for the top cover)
With a mild detergent, wash the inside cover to remove the thin film of oil is removed and my suggestion is to use telfron tape over the "screw thread" as an additional precautionary measure to prevent leaks. This is not necessary but being a native, just couldn't resist the kia-su syndrome impulse.
Instead of hard pvc piping for the inlet n outlet which are found in other brands, the Resuns are made of hard rubber material which I am experiencing this type of usage the first time.
That is the reason why Resun provides you with the 2 transparent connector for insertion directly to both the inlet/outlet rubber hose. Will post a pic of this connection later.
You can omit the transparent connector and just insert the Eheim 16/22mm hose directly into the rubber inlet/outlet of the FBF without any fear of the hose slipping out of the connection. Tested it out with flushing water and it didn't leaks at all.
Additional safeguard is to use a tie-wrap to further bind the hose and the FBF inlet/outlet hose but IMO, this is unnecessary and optional. Kia-Su syndrome strikes again. ;)
For those who doesn't want to use Eheim hose, the alternative is to buy clear pvc hose size of 5/8 inch in diameter which is shown in the pic connecting to the outlet of the FBF. Found this leftover in the store room and might as well utilize it.
The bottom 2 black sponges are of reasonable quality and believe that it can outlive for at least a few changes of the media.
The next stage is to place the media inside the FBR and will post more pics in the next few days while doing the final installation.
Stay tuned.
sherman
24-08-2004, 07:00 AM
Bro,
What is this equipment?
Is it a FR?
Regards
Sherman
Bro,
What is this equipment?
Is it a FR?
Regards
Sherman
yes.. its a FR... Fluidized Reactor.. for some who dunno
soomin
24-08-2004, 09:51 AM
yes.. its a FR... Fluidized Reactor.. for some who dunno
I still no sure, what is it for exactly ? Is it just let the water run thru some filter material ? Where to get it ?
soomin
strat
24-08-2004, 10:03 AM
Is there a rubber gasket in the cover to prevent any leaks?
I still no sure, what is it for exactly ? Is it just let the water run thru some filter material ? Where to get it ?
soomin
yup.. something like that.. for u to put in rowaphos, carbon etc etc... resun FR can be bought at Bio-Ocean... I'm getting Reef Maniacs ;) Will try to do a review...
monsterz1975
24-08-2004, 03:34 PM
Where else is selling this item? Any bro know?
devilfire
24-08-2004, 04:39 PM
i'll b rushing there 2 get 1 today..
an experience reefer i know said it works. :D
nim75sg
24-08-2004, 05:31 PM
Bro,
What is this equipment?
Is it a FR?
Regards
Sherman
Like Ekia said .. it is a Fludized Reactor.
This is an optional item to your marine equipment where you can place your chemical filtration media like Rowa, Chemi-Pure, Phos-Ban, Silicate Remover, etc inside the cannister.
Water is fed thru the cannister via a small pump having low flowrate to provide slow flow through the media for the ultimate efficiency of the media.
However, you still can place it in the sump (like I do) in the return department without this FR but must ensure water is constantly flowing thru the media ie not soaking in the water.
nim75sg
24-08-2004, 05:32 PM
Is there a rubber gasket in the cover to prevent any leaks?
Obviously sure got protection otherwise the water will leaks out mah ...
nim75sg
24-08-2004, 09:12 PM
Here is the pic of the transparent hose connected to the outlet at one end and the other end using the compatible hosing size of 5/8".
Will take readings of the Phosphate level this weekend before placing the Rowa in the Reactor.
devilfire
24-08-2004, 11:26 PM
bought mine today.. kenny advised 2 do some mod 2 it. will post pics in my gallery over the next 2 days.
still dun know how 2 upload pic here.. :p
nim75sg
25-08-2004, 07:11 PM
Great ... so we can share ideas together.
Lim Kopi ....
devilfire
25-08-2004, 10:50 PM
Great ... so we can share ideas together.
Lim Kopi ....
told u already.. mai tu liao :p
nim75sg
27-08-2004, 10:32 PM
Finally, I managed to find a small empty bottle of Chemi-Pure and I drilled the center hole of the same diameter of the FR inlet plastic pipe in addition to all holes.
Pics show the mod cap (1" thick) with holes drilled and the test kit used together with Rowa.
Bottom pic shows the mod inside the FR ...
nim75sg
27-08-2004, 10:36 PM
This pic shows the completed setup with Rowa inside the FR and the water is pump from a Eheim Compact 600 at its lowest level.
nim75sg
27-08-2004, 10:44 PM
IMO, it will still works without the mod cap placing at the bottom of the Reactor but to what efficiency level is everyone guess. Since as suggested by Bio-Ocean to have the mod, the Reactor should works at its optinium efficiency.
Prior to applying some juice to the Reactor, the tank was left without any phosphate media for about 10 days with the same feed timings, number of feeds and dosing of phytophlankton remain unchanged.
This is to ensure the least parameters changes to gauge how how efficient the Reactor with Rowa would be.
The phosphate level measured is at 1.0 today at about 8:30pm and will check again tomoro same timing.
Now we just have to wait ...... Stay tuned.
IMO, it will still works without the mod cap placing at the bottom of the Reactor but to what efficiency level is everyone guess. Since as suggested by Bio-Ocean to have the mod, the Reactor should works at its optinium efficiency.
Prior to applying some juice to the Reactor, the tank was left without any phosphate media for about 10 days with the same feed timings, number of feeds and dosing of phytophlankton remain unchanged.
This is to ensure the least parameters changes to gauge how how efficient the Reactor with Rowa would be.
The phosphate level measured is at 1.0 today at about 8:30pm and will check again tomoro same timing.
Now we just have to wait ...... Stay tuned.
phosphate level at 1.0mg/l?? Just 10 days without any phosphate removal and it climbed so high? wow!!
Let me guess... 24hrs later.. it will be... 0.2mg/l? hehe
nim75sg
27-08-2004, 11:02 PM
Ya lor .. this reading is from this 6ft tank.
Can you see the Koran swimming towards the Sohal?
devilfire
28-08-2004, 12:04 AM
This pic shows the completed setup with Rowa inside the FR and the water is pump from a Eheim Compact 600 at its lowest level.
do u think it's ok if the brownish water above the rowa enters the main tk??
do u think it's ok if the brownish water above the rowa enters the main tk??
its ok.. its inert.. my tank was totally brown yesterday.. haha.. forgot to switch flowrate to the lowest and slowly push it up
devilfire
28-08-2004, 12:12 AM
its ok.. its inert.. my tank was totally brown yesterday.. haha.. forgot to switch flowrate to the lowest and slowly push it up
my FR was releasing it n i gang cheong quickly off my return pump, do a bit of water change fr my sump tk.
my FR was releasing it n i gang cheong quickly off my return pump, do a bit of water change fr my sump tk.
haha dun worry... my whole sump turn red.. even my tank turn slightly red... took half an hour to cleared up... i also kan chiong.. called goh.. and he told me its ok... all my LS no reactions also..
devilfire
28-08-2004, 12:23 AM
haha dun worry... my whole sump turn red.. even my tank turn slightly red... took half an hour to cleared up... i also kan chiong.. called goh.. and he told me its ok... all my LS no reactions also..
most of the fishes in my tk r damn sensitive, so got 2 b careful.
nim75sg
28-08-2004, 11:08 PM
Aug 28 - Measured phosphate level at about the same timing ... it reads 0.2 as predicted by Bro Ekia.
devilfire
28-08-2004, 11:10 PM
Measured phosphate level at about the same timing ... it reads 0.2 as predicted by Bro Ekia.
i think the range is too wide. n it looks more like 0.1 2 me.
monsterz1975
28-08-2004, 11:16 PM
Aug 28 - Measured phosphate level at about the same timing ... it reads 0.2 as predicted by Bro Ekia.
It look less than 0.1 to me.
It look less than 0.1 to me.
camera effect??? I dun think nim75sg would read the colour that badly.. normally cant capture true colour.. unless its a super duper good camera.. haha..
Anyway back to the subject... this shows something.... Resun FR works!! But another thing.. will it be able to maximise the usage of Rowaphos? This is gonna be difficult to determine though
nim75sg
28-08-2004, 11:28 PM
Observation and Conclusion
Pros:
For $27 - This Resun FBF-1000 is certainly a good buy and does perform as good as the other vendor FR. Even though factoring in the cost for the Eheim Compact 600 and Eheim hose, it is still way below those of local DIY customized and other makes.
Cons:
Instead of using hard rubber for both the inlet/outlet housing, PVC piping with a check valve would be a good replacement and make this product a plus against the competition.
Conclusion
IMO, without adding the modification kit to raise the air-circulation level, the FBF would be comfortable with a 600 L/H flowrate pump and still able to see the phosphate media "dancing".
Likewise, you can still see the media "dancing" after adding the mod kit. But a word of caution is to turn to the lowest level from a 600 L/H pump otherwise you will have alot of phosphate media in your tank or sump. Alternatively use a 300 L/H flowrate pump instead.
Certainly a good buy for me as the total cost is only $73 inclusive of the Eheim pump, Eheim hose and Eheim hose converter.
devilfire
28-08-2004, 11:31 PM
Certainly a good buy for me as the total cost is only $73 inclusive of the Eheim pump, Eheim hose and Eheim hose converter.
mine oni cost $37 :p
nim75sg
28-08-2004, 11:52 PM
Yup .. took the pic without any flash otherwise the flash blocks out the subject. Will post pic tomoro after taking another measurement if its zero.
It could have cost me $34 if the FR is tee-off or share from the refugium 900 L/H pump instead of having a dedicated pump. ;)
nim75sg
29-08-2004, 06:26 PM
Took a reading of the Phosphate level and as predicted by Bro Ekia ... the reading is ZERO.
Phosphate Media Removal + Fluidized Reactor = Zero level in 48 hours.
devilfire
29-08-2004, 06:29 PM
Took a reading of the Phosphate level and as predicted by Bro Ekia ... the reading is ZERO.
Phosphate Media Removal + Fluidized Reactor = Zero level in 48 hours.
i'll test mine tmr, stay tune
Took a reading of the Phosphate level and as predicted by Bro Ekia ... the reading is ZERO.
Phosphate Media Removal + Fluidized Reactor = Zero level in 48 hours.
The power of rowaphos... no wonder so popular!
nim75sg
29-08-2004, 09:45 PM
That's why I have a fetishism on Rowa .. :D
ReDDeviLs
15-12-2004, 04:05 AM
sorry to dig up the old thread,can i run my rowa and carbon togethber in this FR?
Creetin
15-12-2004, 05:37 AM
i guess tts fine bro......
some people do have reservations on running both though...
Creetin
15-12-2004, 05:39 AM
oh to explain, they say its cos carbon has some kinda phosphate, and running rowa together somehow neutralise each other...
Creetin
15-12-2004, 05:40 AM
one more thing. if u wan to change either media, it will be super difficult!
ReDDeviLs
15-12-2004, 04:16 PM
anyone did it before?
nim75sg
15-12-2004, 05:37 PM
anyone did it before?
Did what before?
ReDDeviLs
18-12-2004, 04:26 AM
carbon and rowa in FR
nim75sg
23-12-2004, 06:40 PM
No. Only one type of media in a FR.
Guppies Onli
20-10-2005, 04:10 PM
Anyone knows the footprint size or diameter and the height of the FBF 500? Thanks in advance. ;)
dradttg
21-10-2005, 03:06 PM
Anyone knows the footprint size or diameter and the height of the FBF 500? Thanks in advance. ;)
I am using one.
I have never measured it. Agar Agar the diameter is 10 cm and the height is about 20 - 25 cm.
Guppies Onli
21-10-2005, 04:32 PM
Thanks for the info. ;)
I am using one.
I have never measured it. Agar Agar the diameter is 10 cm and the height is about 20 - 25 cm.
nim75sg
21-10-2005, 06:10 PM
Anyone knows the footprint size or diameter and the height of the FBF 500? Thanks in advance. ;)
I don't know about the FBF500 but the FBF1000 is 10cm in diameter and ht is 46 cm up to the inlet/outlet hoses. Excluding the inlet/out hose, the ht is about 36cm.
chercm
14-05-2006, 08:45 PM
is it very difficult to open for maintance?
nim75sg
15-05-2006, 08:47 AM
Yes ... damn difficult to open and you must do a mod otherwise this fella can't work well as a fluidized reactor.
Better spend the money on another brand which gives you ease of maintenance and value for money eg PhosBan
nim75sg
15-05-2006, 08:48 AM
Yes ... damn difficult to open and you must do a mod otherwise this fella can't work well as a fluidized reactor.
Better spend the money on another brand which gives you ease of maintenance and value for money eg Two Little Fishes PhosBan Reactor or the recent promotion by AquaMarin on the SKIMZ FR. :)
Guppies Onli
15-05-2006, 08:42 PM
You mean it's not screw thread mount? The 2 little fishes diameter is it bigger than the resun one? Thanks.
Yes ... damn difficult to open and you must do a mod otherwise this fella can't work well as a fluidized reactor.
Better spend the money on another brand which gives you ease of maintenance and value for money eg Two Little Fishes PhosBan Reactor or the recent promotion by AquaMarin on the SKIMZ FR. :)
nim75sg
16-05-2006, 07:45 AM
You mean it's not screw thread mount? The 2 little fishes diameter is it bigger than the resun one? Thanks.
That would be correct as the Resun is not "Screw tighten" like the older version of the PhosBan.
The latest verson of PhosBan is "thread" lock which the Resun FBF is using but Resun damn difficult to unscrew.
The 2 Little Fishes FR dimension is 3" in diameter and 12" tall and it comes with all the accessories. ;)
Guppies Onli
16-05-2006, 08:49 AM
Thanks for the info Nim!:)
That would be correct as the Resun is not "Screw tighten" like the older version of the PhosBan.
The latest verson of PhosBan is "thread" lock which the Resun FBF is using but Resun damn difficult to unscrew.
The 2 Little Fishes FR dimension is 3" in diameter and 12" tall and it comes with all the accessories. ;)
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