Is it okay for aro to be in....

[CHAN]

....greenish water caused by direct sunlight??Will it get sick ??

plz comment
thnks;)

[PoPoK]

if i'm not wrong greenish water coz by sunlight is the best environment an aro can be in..but make sure its not an algae bloom.;)


CHEEERS

[arofans]

Its gd 4 yr aro. The algae will hlp to consume the nitrate in the water leaving u with a better water condns.

[Vetduck]

Well according to the aro breeders, greenish water is suppose to help enhance the colour of the aro. Personally I haven't had the chance to prove that theory.

My concern with greenish water that is like severe algae bloom would deplete the tank/pond of oxygen during the night when photosynthesis stops. The aro may go into respiratory distress.

[jmeng]

What I heard was if too much algae in the water, the algae may trapped in the grill and caused the aro lack of oxygen. This will caused the grill cover to curl. Don't know whether it is true or not?

[Isna]

there is evidence to suggest that gill cover abnormalities can result from low oxygen levels in young growing fish.
like what vetduck has said,
severe algae bloom would deplete the tank/pond of oxygen during the night
this might lead to gill curl in the long term.
u might get this problem if u have a green tank in a darkish environment.

But on the totally opposite side of things, During a bright sunny day, a green tank might produce too much oxygen during the day( from photosynthesis). This can cause gas supersaturation, or even a subclinical form of the condition, where u don't see ANYTHING WRONG with your aro at all, but it might grow slower, n b more susceptible to diseases.

u r right too jmeng,
the algae may trapped in the grill and caused the aro lack of oxygen.
but this is less common, only occuring with larger species of algae..... some algae, even freshwater ones can produce highly toxic poisons to fish....some even act like skin parasites n cause skin problems. but these r rare....

more importantly, Even when the water is green, some algae will die throughout the whole time....but new ones grow so the water remains green....what happens to the dead algae?? = increase organic load. basically like having a dead fish in the tank...

dead algae will clogg up gills, irritate them n predispose to gill infections. under anerobic degradation, they might form hydrogen sulphide and methane gas, these can slow the growth of aros and make them fall sick much easier...
under aerobic degradation, u get increase nitrates and perhaps even increase ammonia....highly toxic stuff which we all know..and can cause subclinical growth n health problems if levels r lowish......

still think green water is good?? u can't even see the fish...now that;s a big downside if u ask me.....
;)

[CHAN]

Hi, thnks for clearing my doubts....but 2 more question,
1]assuming i want to grow a stingray in the tank....will the ray die with such conditions?
2]N is it a must for red aro's to be near direct sunlight my tank is in a room which is bright during the day n i will on the tank light for 4hrs everyday at night,so is this enough for my red aro's red developement??


plz help
thnks;)

[LongGee]

Water in my 4x2x2 tank is lighly greenish. Tank is placed in a reasonably dark room because blind is closed all the time. I don't have a fluoscent light on the tank.

How can I eradicate the green water problem? I am reluctant to add any chemicals into the tank. Any natural way?

Thank you all


Originally posted by Isna
there is evidence to suggest that gill cover abnormalities can result from low oxygen levels in young growing fish.
like what vetduck has said,

this might lead to gill curl in the long term.
u might get this problem if u have a green tank in a darkish environment.

But on the totally opposite side of things, During a bright sunny day, a green tank might produce too much oxygen during the day( from photosynthesis). This can cause gas supersaturation, or even a subclinical form of the condition, where u don't see ANYTHING WRONG with your aro at all, but it might grow slower, n b more susceptible to diseases.

u r right too jmeng,

but this is less common, only occuring with larger species of algae..... some algae, even freshwater ones can produce highly toxic poisons to fish....some even act like skin parasites n cause skin problems. but these r rare....

more importantly, Even when the water is green, some algae will die throughout the whole time....but new ones grow so the water remains green....what happens to the dead algae?? = increase organic load. basically like having a dead fish in the tank...

dead algae will clogg up gills, irritate them n predispose to gill infections. under anerobic degradation, they might form hydrogen sulphide and methane gas, these can slow the growth of aros and make them fall sick much easier...
under aerobic degradation, u get increase nitrates and perhaps even increase ammonia....highly toxic stuff which we all know..and can cause subclinical growth n health problems if levels r lowish......

still think green water is good?? u can't even see the fish...now that;s a big downside if u ask me.....
;)

[sleep]

good 2 have greenish water...but better use ketapang leaves
wait got algae nia:D :D :D

[Vetduck]

Originally posted by LongGee
Water in my 4x2x2 tank is lighly greenish. Tank is placed in a reasonably dark room because blind is closed all the time. I don't have a fluoscent light on the tank.

How can I eradicate the green water problem? I am reluctant to add any chemicals into the tank. Any natural way?

Thank you all




How about UV light to clear out the algae? Works very well with outdoor tanks.

[Isna]

Hi Chan.

1]assuming i want to grow a stingray in the tank....will the ray die with such conditions?

Algae as a cause of death is generally rare, but it can occur.. so it depends on lots of things bro...no simple answer.....best is to avoid green water..


2]N is it a must for red aro's to be near direct sunlight my tank is in a room which is bright during the day n i will on the tank light for 4hrs everyday at night,so is this enough for my red aro's red developement??

Direct sunlight isn't necessary in fish. it is very important in some reptiles, but fish do fine....they can get most of their vit D from the diet.....no need sun.....in fact, we know that too much sun can cause skin cancer in fish, and skin burnt lesions, just like humans....the glass tank however does provide some protection.
:D

[CHAN]

Isna Hi Chan.


(2]N is it a must for red aro's to be near direct sunlight my tank is in a room which is bright during the day n i will on the tank light for 4hrs everyday at night,so is this enough for my red aro's red developement??


Direct sunlight isn't necessary in fish. it is very important in some reptiles, but fish do fine....they can get most of their vit D from the diet.....no need sun.....in fact, we know that too much sun can cause skin cancer in fish, and skin burnt lesions, just like humans....the glass tank however does provide some protection.



So isna, u mean sunlight is not important for red aro's??I thought some ppl say they r very important??:confused:

plz clarify
thnks;)

[EngineeriNG]

Originally posted by CHAN
....greenish water caused by direct sunlight??Will it get sick ??

plz comment
thnks;)

try to keep ur light off for a longer time each day, and not direct sun light on ur tank too long, buy some algae eater, do a good job on filtering or get a UVS

[newbiex]

How can I eradicate the green water problem? I am reluctant to add any chemicals into the tank. Any natural way?

Yes, UV will definitely clear up the green water. :)

[EngineeriNG]

the down side is, it will also kill useful bacteria

[Isna]

Hi Chan..
no. sunlight does more bad than good.....i guess.
there is no evidence that sunlight improves colouration in fish/aro etc....just a common belief....well, if u think about it...it's natural intuition to think that sunlight = natural light = boost colouration of fish......i know it sounds damn pleasing to hear, n perhaps see your aro swimming in a clear tank with the beautiful sun pouring in( i'm sure our aros will enjoy the tan as well), but it's not necessary. of course, if u can prevent algae from developing, why not?? sunlight is good then! but be careful.

[Vetduck]

Originally posted by EngineeriNG
the down side is, it will also kill useful bacteria

Yes it is true that UV light can kill beneficial bacteria as well. However UV light should not be switched on 24 hrs a day. Just a couple of hrs a day would suffice.

Most of your beneficial bacteria would be in your filter media, so you won't run the risk of wiping out all your good bacteria with UV light.