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BarraCuda™ 30-10-2006 02:01 PM

Arofanatics Infraction System
 
The infraction system is implemented because the reputation system cannot be effectively used for controlling users that dont follow the rules.

How it works?
Basically, the infraction system works like a typical warning system. When the moderator give an infraction to a user, a certain amount of points will be given to the user. Once the user accumulated enough points, he/she will have a more restricted usage in the forum. Some of the infraction points will expire eventually and the user will regain his/her usual rights.

There are 3 levels of restriction

Level 1 - 10 points accumulated
Lose avatar and posting rights in buy&sell and chat forum

Level 2 - 20 points accumulated
Unable to view buy&sell and chat forum, PM limit restricted to 10, unable to use rep power

Level 3 - 30 points accumulated
Automatic ban

These are the proposed penalties and their infraction points. This is by no means a complete list and will be changed from time to time.


Off Topic Chatting - (P)=3
Quoting Whole Post - (P)=3
Hijack of sales thread - (P)=4
Inappropriate language - Flaming (P)=3
Inappropriate language - Threatening of others (P)=5
Inappropriate language - Vulgarities (P)=5
Inappropriate language - Vulgarities in a threatening manner (P)=8
Inappropriate language - Insulting others despite of repeated warnings (P)=8
Posting inappropriate links/pictures (P)=5
Selling in non-buy & sell forums (P)=3
Selling of illegal items (P)=10
Selling on behalf (P)=10
Spammed advertisements (P)=5
Spammed advertisements across multiple forums (P)=10
Posting smilies only posts at aquatic forums (P)=2
Not adhering to the no consecutive "UP" guideline (P)=2
Non-aquatic pictures in gallery (P)=3
Aquatic pictures in wrong gallery (P)=1
Flooding (P)=3
Not following bidding guidelines (P)=4
Openly challenge infraction (P)=8

These infractions have an expiry time between 3 months to 18 months depending on the seriousness of the offence. If the user accumulates 10 points or more before expiry, he/she will face restricted use in this forum.

If you think that the infraction given is not appropriate then you may PM the respective moderator to give your reason. If the issue cannot be resolved, the moderator may bring it up to the administrators which will have the final decision.

We do not want to see users starting threads/posts whining about their infraction. Another infraction will be given once we see such threads/posts regardless of whether you have a valid case or not.

We would also like to hear the views from the members and finetune the system if necessary. Please voice up or ask questions now before implementation if you have any doubts.

Note : The infraction system has been officially implemented with effect from now.

aro crazzz 30-10-2006 02:12 PM

Good Good...
Jus like driving license...;)

redbasser 30-10-2006 02:23 PM

Can elaborate on the Flooding (P) = 3, please?

GIN 30-10-2006 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redbasser (Post 4690376)
Can elaborate on the Flooding (P) = 3, please?

http://www.arofanatics.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=206117

I think the above thread is what he mean. :D

jebus 30-10-2006 02:30 PM

for flaming
issit flaming of another forum member or flaming in general?

does criticising politicians over their's silly actions count as flaming?
isnt it abit grey ths area?

and an example say
a buy/seller dispute... where buyers and seller put up threads to "clarify" situation and by some unfortunate circumstance become some faction wars between forumers
are these considered as flaming?
when its actually an open exchange between two forummers?

arorules 30-10-2006 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by redbasser (Post 4690376)
Can elaborate on the Flooding (P) = 3, please?

meaning posting the same posts multiple times in different forums... like flooding/spamming

hsjose 30-10-2006 02:32 PM

Think we should post this as a sticky thread. New or/and inactive members will be able to read it too when they logged in. ;)

CJY_15 30-10-2006 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarraCuda™ (Post 4690335)
Posting smilies only posts at aquatic forums (P)=2

did not know the existance of this rule...
i am guilty of this.... :o

cbrian37 30-10-2006 02:41 PM

is going off topic or chit chat in forum other than chat/gossip forum an offence too?

shiokmc 30-10-2006 03:09 PM

haha....same la same la... Reps or Infractn .... to me no diff...........

why give yourselves (mods/admin) so much headache

jwhtan 30-10-2006 03:15 PM

If you have any questions, please address it here so that the mods and Barra can help to answer your questions. Please do not pm me your questions. I know very little of this infraction system and cannot answer your questions. In this short space of time, I have already 7 pms on this system. Sorry I am unable to help you as I am also trying to understand the system myself.

cavallino 30-10-2006 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwhtan (Post 4690496)
If you have any questions, please address it here so that the mods and Barra can help to answer your questions. Please do not pm me your questions. I know very little of this infraction system and cannot answer your questions. In this short space of time, I have already 7 pms on this system. Sorry I am unable to help you as I am also trying to understand the system myself.

alright then at least sing us a song...

cavallino 30-10-2006 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiokmc (Post 4690485)
haha....same la same la... Reps or Infractn .... to me no diff...........

why give yourselves (mods/admin) so much headache

actually with this system, it should be less headache for us.. coz we just administer according to the book, no need use brain, gut feel, give benefit of doubt, or other subjective measures.. in theory la at least..

shiokmc 30-10-2006 03:18 PM

k n s .... http://arofanatics.com/forums/signat...gpic2515_1.gif

can imagine Bbarney singin' "Chan MaLiii Chan Aay ayy...." after slaughterin 3 pigs:D

jwhtan 30-10-2006 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cavallino (Post 4690499)
alright then at least sing us a song...


I love you, You love me,
We are a happy family,
With a big hug, and a kiss from me to you,
Won't you say you love me too! :p

I love you, You love me,
We are best friends like friends should be,
With a big hug, and a kiss from me to you,
Won't you say you love me too :D

yanki2 30-10-2006 03:18 PM

will it be reflected for all to see like the rep power and points?:confused:

shiokmc 30-10-2006 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cavallino (Post 4690500)
actually with this system, it should be less headache for us.. coz we just administer according to the book, no need use brain, gut feel, give benefit of doubt, or other subjective measures.. in theory la at least..

aiyo ... everyone now so used to this Rep System ...change here change there flip here n there roti prata fun meh ?

anyway, as i said, no diff to me.... if you guys think its easier to maintain, then good for you...;) Less headache......

shiokmc 30-10-2006 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwhtan (Post 4690508)
I love you, You love me,
We are a happy family,
With a big hug, and a kiss from me to you,
Won't you say you love me too! :p

I love you, You love me,
We are best friends like friends should be,
With a big hug, and a kiss from me to you,
Won't you say you love me too :D


wakaoz....lunch comin out liaoz...... your image consultant doin a Fantastic job in softenin' your image

BarraCuda™ 30-10-2006 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jebus (Post 4690392)
for flaming
issit flaming of another forum member or flaming in general?

does criticising politicians over their's silly actions count as flaming?
isnt it abit grey ths area?

and an example say
a buy/seller dispute... where buyers and seller put up threads to "clarify" situation and by some unfortunate circumstance become some faction wars between forumers
are these considered as flaming?
when its actually an open exchange between two forummers?

Its very hard to define this. Generally, if the language is civil and of true fact, we will not give an infraction for that.

BarraCuda™ 30-10-2006 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbrian37 (Post 4690434)
is going off topic or chit chat in forum other than chat/gossip forum an offence too?

It is covered in this infraction
Excess chatting despite of repeated warnings (P)=3

BarraCuda™ 30-10-2006 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yanki2 (Post 4690509)
will it be reflected for all to see like the rep power and points?:confused:

You can only see your own infraction inside the User CP. You will also receive a PM for it.

Tadpole81 30-10-2006 03:48 PM

very interesting indeed

BarraCuda™ 30-10-2006 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shiokmc (Post 4690521)
aiyo ... everyone now so used to this Rep System ...change here change there flip here n there roti prata fun meh ?

anyway, as i said, no diff to me.... if you guys think its easier to maintain, then good for you...;) Less headache......

Rep system will still stay, the infraction system is additional.

jebus 30-10-2006 03:54 PM

hi mods i think it will be quite labour intensive to enforce

can this thing be done on a case to case basis?

shiokmc 30-10-2006 03:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jebus (Post 4690601)
hi mods i think it will be quite labour intensive to enforce

can this thing be done on a case to case basis?

case by case LAGi shiong for them i guess.............

redbasser 30-10-2006 03:58 PM

I agree that case by case is very tedious for the mods.
What happens if the mods miss one or two cases?
Will they be accused of being unfair?

jebus 30-10-2006 04:03 PM

i think when i meant case to case basis
means some one complains
and its obvious
like xx thread got ppl constantly spamming certain shop name

n the mods go see if its true

or when the mods do their routine "patrols"

GARY© 30-10-2006 04:10 PM

I really wonder..... since this is a hobbyist forum..... do we really need so much rules and pts system....

cbrian37 30-10-2006 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jebus (Post 4690624)
i think when i meant case to case basis
means some one complains
and its obvious
like xx thread got ppl constantly spamming certain shop name

n the mods go see if its true

or when the mods do their routine "patrols"

ya.in btw certain forum also become chit chat session instead of discussion.is this a penalty too?

jngks 30-10-2006 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tadpole81 (Post 4690589)
very interesting indeed

yah bro tadpole indded very interesting.............:D

Guppies Onli 30-10-2006 04:30 PM

Fine and it should be clear to me. Very similar to our country style - with more TV and radio ads, the radio and TV licence fee still stay! :D

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarraCuda™ (Post 4690590)
Rep system will still stay, the infraction system is additional.


yanki2 30-10-2006 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarraCuda™ (Post 4690587)
You can only see your own infraction inside the User CP. You will also receive a PM for it.

oh ok. so others cannot see it la?:D

joelwong 30-10-2006 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BarraCuda™ (Post 4690585)
It is covered in this infraction
Excess chatting despite of repeated warnings (P)=3

if no tolerence for tok cok, then the forum will become a pure technical forum

cavallino 30-10-2006 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joelwong (Post 4690916)
if no tolerence for tok cok, then the forum will become a pure technical forum

the key word is 'excess'.. we generally accept that some chatting is not only unavoidable but beneficial for building friendships on the net.

jngks 30-10-2006 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cavallino (Post 4690928)
the key word is 'excess'.. we generally accept that some chatting is not only unavoidable but beneficial for building friendships on the net.

than the limit for 'excess' is till wat degree???:confused:

joelwong 30-10-2006 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jngks (Post 4690953)
than the limit for 'excess' is till wat degree???:confused:

I would think that this is a gray line and it can depend on whether the mod like your nick anot (kidding, no offence :D).

But I think it is good that the mods are constantly trying to improve the system, if does not work out, they can always screw the infraction thingy right?

terence28 30-10-2006 05:58 PM

never heard of the word "Infraction" before... sibei chim!

jngks 30-10-2006 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joelwong (Post 4690969)
I would think that this is a gray line and it can depend on whether the mod like your nick anot (kidding, no offence :D).

But I think it is good that the mods are constantly trying to improve the system, if does not work out, they can always screw the infraction thingy right?

wah like that siao liao lah, they dun like my nick meh???:D :D hehehe its ok joking onli mah......

yah than got excuse to do tat lor hahaha:D

onlyyouknow 30-10-2006 06:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cavallino (Post 4690928)
the key word is 'excess'.. we generally accept that some chatting is not only unavoidable but beneficial for building friendships on the net.

Maybe can put it down in black and white how many % of posts then considered excessive, like that everyone will know...

Mr Barney is back! :D

shiokmc 30-10-2006 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by terence28 (Post 4690979)
never heard of the word "Infraction" before... sibei chim!

i aLSO NO HEAR b4 ....

butt i use dict


breach; violation; infringement: an infraction of the rules.
The act or an instance of infringing; a violation.


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