Dosages & Price Comparison Of Anti-Chloramine
 

Dosages of treatment per 20L
Summary


Genesis = 0.31ml
Prime = 0.5ml
Ocean free Newater Guard =1ml
Aqumedi Guardian =1.2 ml
Nutrafin aquaplus = 5.75ml
Bio stress guard = 7.5 ml

Prices of treatment per 20L
Summary

GENESIS = $0.010582
PRIME = $0.0175
OCEANFREE NEWATER GUARD = $0.0235
AQUMEDI GUARDIAN = $0.05
BIO STRESS GUARD = $0.071428
NUTRAFIN AQUAPLUS = $0.114284

WORKINGS
Genesis = $4 / 7560litres x 20 = 0.010582 cents(calculated from usa $4 for 118ml)
Prime = $17.50 / 20000 x 20 = 0.0175 cents(calculated from $12 for 500 ml)
Ocean free Newater guard = $47/40000 x 20 = 0.0235 cents(calculated from $47 for 2000ml)
Aqumedi guardian = $4.8 / 1920 x 20 = 0.05 cents(calculated from $4 per 120ml)
Nutrafin aquaplus(anti-chloramine dose) = $5 / 875 x 20 = 0.114284 cents ( calculated from $5 per 250ml)
Bio stress guard = $18/ 5040 x 20 = 0.071428 ( 1 cap is 15 ml. Their estimation is bull shit)(calculated from $18 per 2000ml)

*20 L = 1 conventional red pail
* assumption that recommended dosage stated in label is reliable in treating chloramines
*Information does not signify which works better in treating your water qualitatively
*prices may vary from one place to another

Good Work.
I'm sticking this thread and hope the data can be expanded and updated regularly.

Mod, any chance to sticky this info too?

"We are concerned with 2 things in tap water. Chlorine and chloramine. As we know, chlorine can be removed by aging and aeration or adding anti-chlorine which removes it instantly.

We need to be aware and understand that anti-chlorine products vary differently. It is noticeable that the technology improves over time with point 3. being the latest technology.

1. Some only remove chlorine.

2. Some remove both clorine and chloramine only. For chlorine removal, there is no byproducts but as chloramine is chemically stable, unbreaking the bonds would release ammonia. An example of this product is Fritz Guard. This must be used with Fritz Ammonia Remover to neutralize toxic ammonia prior to the introduction of aquatic life. Therefore, 2 products are now required to keep the water safe.

3. There are few 3-in-1s. A few products can remove both chlorine and chloramine and detoxify the ammonia. Seachem Prime is an example."



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Hydher, for api stresscoat.

According to the directions
To remove chlorine and neutralize chloramine
5ml per 38L.
which is =~ 2.63ml per 20L.

to help repair damaged skin and fins and replace slime coating

10ml per 38L
which is =~5.26ml per 20L


C328 price $13.00 for 473ml bottle.

Dosages of treatment per 20L
Summary


Genesis = 0.31ml
Prime = 0.5ml
Ocean free Newater Guard =1ml
Aqumedi Guardian =1.2 ml
Api stresscoat = 2.631579 ml
Nutrafin aquaplus = 5.75ml
Bio stress guard = 7.5 ml

Prices of treatment per 20L
Summary

GENESIS = $0.010582
PRIME = $0.0175
OCEANFREE NEWATER GUARD = $0.0235
AQUMEDI GUARDIAN = $0.05
BIO STRESS GUARD = $0.071428
API STRESSCOAT = $ 0.072327
NUTRAFIN AQUAPLUS = $0.114284


WORKINGS
Genesis = $4 / 7560litres x 20 = 0.010582 cents(calculated from usa $4 for 118ml)
Prime = $17.50 / 20000 x 20 = 0.0175 cents(calculated from $12 for 500 ml)
Ocean free Newater guard = $47/40000 x 20 = 0.0235 cents(calculated from $47 for 2000ml)
Aqumedi guardian = $4.8 / 1920 x 20 = 0.05 cents(calculated from $4 per 120ml)
Bio stress guard = $18/ 5040 x 20 = 0.071428 ( 1 cap is 15 ml. Their estimation is bull shit)(calculated from $18 per 2000ml)
Api stresscoat = =13/3594.8*20 = 0.072327
Nutrafin aquaplus = $5 / 875 x 20 = 0.114284 cents ( calculated from $5 per 250ml)

20 L = 1 conventional red pail

I could not fill the conventional red pail with 8 pet bottles of 1.5 litre each. So I guess the pail can only take about 12 litres to the brim at most .

1 pet bottle is 2l. =.=

i thought 1.5l? maybe there's different brands, but the common coke brand is 1.5l right? anyway, ocean free Fish guard not good because it doesn't remove the ammonia? any opinions on this? i just bought a new 120ml bottle.. boo... i'm using it mainly for my only betta..

Hi Thanks for the info,

Wil keep the data,

Thanks

nice info, can any bros help to confirm if overdose will be harmful to our beloved fishes?

how would we know? we are not a scientist. Chloramines levels may differ as much as the composition of your conditioner over different times and brands. So how much is enough? Too subjective to be discussed. No definite answers, just experiences with different brands. Dun have to be too scientific about it as many fish can tolerate some levels and over time due to ageing and dilution the levels will drop. Just follow the labels and monitor your fish. If possible, invest in a kit to check for the levels of chloramine and other parameters for valued or expensive fish. Direct your efforts to other parameters like food, not too drastic water change, stress from traffic n other fishes disturbing it. :)

fyi, many are overdosing on prime(a conditioner brand) on aro tanks. From my exp, bros who drop prime on e fins of long tailed fighting fishes, notices a hole in the tail.

went c328, got genesis at 3 bottles for $10, went je217, saw 5 bottle for $12.50.. for all to know only..

got my and us made. 5 for 12.50 is really cheap.

must becareful... the more vibrant coloured package genesis anti chlorine is the "fake" or diluted.. this applies for the normal bottle.. for those round cylinder type i not that sure..

nutrafin need 10ml to treat 70l of water.
so if TS state 20ml of water, it should be less than 3ml of nutrafin.
latest price i bought is the 500ml bottle which cost $10

Precisely.. based on 250ml for $5

i saw the grp purchase for prime 2l in events forum...
erm...
i have not started to use prime yet..
what is the RRP for Prime 2l in SG?

Prime & Baxter 3-in-1 I usually double dose & nothing happens, sometimes triple dose too : both ok for my aros.

Great pc of information! Keep up the good work bro..thanks a lot man!:)

Guys all this info is great on the breakdown of the cost and the dosage of anti-chlorine.

But does any of the anti-chlorine state what dosage treats what dosage of chlorine and chloromine in the water?

e.g 1 Litre of water have 10 X the amt of chlorine and chloromine but ur anti-chlorine dosage on the label can only get rid of 3X the amt of chlorine and chloromine. Like that the anti-chlorine is useless.

we should oso take note that the concentration of chlorine n chloramine in the tap water is different for different countries. the dosage recommended by the product is only relevant for the country of the source of the product.

They just suggests generally on dosage per volume of commercial tap water. if you are paranoid, can get those carbon filters that filter off stuffs before it enters ur tank.:)

it differs in the country itself too.

Oh dear, if 20L = 1 conventional red pail, I think I've always been overdosing Prime everytime I do WC. I'm using like 1.5ml per red pail!

Anyone else can share their dosage for Prime when they do weekly WC?

i put 30ml of Prime for 100litres
plus 3 tablespoon of baxter 3in1 : super OverDose :)

Hmmm, that works out to 6ml per 20L. Yup, super overdose liao. Hahahaha, at least I don't feel that bad now.

Thanks bro.

dun worry. many of them overdose with prime. Its a good brand. Even c328 upgraded from genesis to that.

yeah, no worry. just to share. i am using 2x of the recommended dosage :)

chlorine + ammonia = chloramine.

if we remove ammonia from water then
will be chloramine terminate?

Prime® is the complete and concentrated conditioner for both fresh and salt water. Prime® removes chlorine, chloramine and ammonia. Prime® converts ammonia into a safe, non-toxic form that is readily removed by the tank’s biofilter. Prime® may be used during tank cycling to alleviate ammonia/nitrite toxicity. Prime® detoxifies nitrite and nitrate, allowing the biofilter to more efficiently remove them. It will also detoxify any heavy metals found in the tap water at typical concentration levels. Prime® also promotes the production and regeneration of the natural slime coat. Prime® is non-acidic and will not impact pH. Prime® will not overactivate skimmers. Use at start-up and whenever adding or replacing water.

http://www.seachem.com/Products/prod...ges/Prime.html

Any feedback for API?

i'm using seachem for my newly setup tank.

I just a bottle of Prime. I calculate my 422 tank if i change 20% of water is abt 100ltr of water and only required 5ml of Prime.. is it really so little?? I normally dun see how much i add when i uses stress coat..just press as i feel comfortable.. now seeing this thread make me feel that i have been overdosing for the past few years!

Prime = $17.50 / 20000 x 20 = 0.0175 cents(calculated from $12 for 500 ml)

500ml for $12 so cheap? where?

Prime dosage is 5ml per 200L.
If you WC direct from tap, it is advised to dose base on tank volume rather than just water changed volume.

lets go BUY leh ;) been using StressCoat and/or Baxter... but been hearing so many good reviews on SeachemPrime

use both baxter & seachem
i double dose each : my wc has 4x regular dose

Used Prime for my pass 3 WC liao. Started with 4 cap for 100 Ltr (15% of my WC) then 3 cap for all my WC. Exact require dosage is only less then 1 cap! So far so good. Rate : 4 out of 5. :)

bought 1 500ml btl for $16 last week @ Y618. Auntie mentioned that it's the best anti-clorine out there, when fish sick they just change water and add this, macham SKII miracle water sia...according to her pricing v competitive, they don't earn much, like <$2 a bottle, so i'm just wondering where did the $12 a btl come from.

ohhh.. okok.. i usually 2x OD
hahahaha... u guuud !!!! 4x !!!

thanks for FR bro

:p i also wunder ...

How about Seachem "Safe", the powder form of anti-chlorine?

Any reviews from bros here?:)

According to the dosage instructions, 5g can treat 750L of water for chlorine and 950L of water for chlormine:eek::eek:

Hi :D any reviews for Azoo arowana live water? it acts as a anti-chlorine and provides buffering too. Treats 100L of water for 10ml.

Any reviews or comments on it?