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Posted picture here. Please praise this ranchu and support your comments with facts. If you can give COO will be most appreciated.

Got pic with another angle or not? Kinda hard to fully appraise this ranchu from this angle alone.

a beautiful ranchu as it pleases my eyes when i first look at it. COO i don know.:) (a beauty!!!:D )

My 2 cents worth: I think overall it is a nice ranchu, wide head, protruding cheeks, eyes tucked neatly into its sides, smooth back, shapely pectoral fins, well developed wen and i believe wide caudal peduncle ... not easy to confirm though, also have some difficulty seeing its scales and shape of tail from the top, tail appears a bit off but may be due to its motion ... yes, any more photos ... what is coo?

Imagine you are the judge, assessing the fish and cannot catch it to view the other angle. ;)

COO = country of origin. :)

It is a nice ranchu from this angle. I think it is Japanese bred raised in Singapore. Why I said that is because the colour is not deep enough.

Normally, the judge get to see the real thing in action so should be able to get a look of it at all angles with a bit of patience.

Back to the ranchu, nice headgrowth and eyes are "embedded" inside the head (this is the kind of head that I like to see in older ranchu). Backbone seems to be thick from the angle of the shot and tail look normal to me. Colouration is not as intense as those red/white ranchus featured in Jap goldfish magazine.

Is this your ranchu? I guess this ranchu likely to be from Japan but being raised outside Japan. ;) :D

OK, then. I will judge as best I can.

From the pic, seems that the mehaba, sehaba wide and the peduncle thick. Tail from whta I can tell opens nicely. Wen growth is good, is of a good rectangular shape.

Nice !!~~~~~~~~

Nice ranchu there ... basiscally carrying all the neccessary features to make it a nice specimen.

Color seems kinda off ... but could be those fish with "underlying" color which is rather special. Cant really explain this feature but have seen it on some fishes ... that is of cos I assess this fish correction from the pic ;)

Jap? Thai? Sing?

Think is a Jap ... again ... same as the rest ... think is raised up in Singapore waters ;)

Hi just to ask a question on this fish; for a TVR is this fish a little short? I was told TVR should ideally be of the following proportion by lfs:

Ratio of: Head = 1, Body = 2.5, Tail = 1

Please advice if I've been snooked, thanks.

You are correct if you are following the general guidelines. However, long or short depend very much of personal preference and there is no absolute right or wrong.

Some like the body to have a ratio of 2 (short body)whereas some like to have body ratio as high as 3 (long body). ;) :D

Phew nice piece!!!Can be model if colour more intense!!!(white more white,red more red)

Either a ratio of 1:2:1 or 1:2.5:1 is ok ;)

shorter body ones with ratio 1:1.5:1 tend to be less desirable amongst those keeping for comp ... but the fish itself will look very cute and chubby ;)

Thank you pykoh & samuelphan for you quick reply & clarification.

i feels tat commenting on sotong's fish is less stressful....seems like more comments were posted.:)

Any chance of you disclosing COO for this ranchu? Btw, I asked in my previous post, is this your ranchu? Thanks.

A very nice piece of ranchu. I would also think that this is a Japanese ranchu. Had been in good hands but the current owner does not keep it well thats why the colour is so bad.

Just another point to add. This ranchu looks very similar to an Ishikawa that I used to own(Ishikawa was told by the person that sold me the ranchu, so I cannot verify). The main difference is that mine the tail is not so beautiful and that the head growth is slightly sharper and not as broad as this one. Mine the colour is very kwat red one. When stationery, it will always point its head down by about 15 degrees. Swmming is excellent. When I bought it last year, it was bbr. But after change colour, sian liao. Gave it away because I love full red ranchu. Those type that is red from head to tail, top to bottom.

Do you have a photo? It would be nice to compare and see if there is really a similarity!

When I gave it away that time I havn't got digi cam yet, also havn't got camera phone yet.

Been asking my friend to send me a photo of the ranchu for ages but he never did. See what I can do.

birdshit,
Do you know the english translation of mehaba and sehaba? Noticed you used these two words in other post. Appreciate if you could use english translation for easy reading. Thanks.

Mehaba is distance between the eyes.

Sehaba is the back.

What makes you all think the fish is jap and raised in Singapore?

We may be wrong but this is what most of us experience with our ranchus and also observing others. There is generally a very distinct profile of Japanese bred ranchu as compared to those breed outside Japan. Maybe it is the cool weather, maybe the food, maybe the water. I don't really know.

Let me give you an example. I am a Chinese and so are most of us. But somehow the Chinese nationals that I see in Singapore and China are somehow different from the Singaporean Chinese. Somehow you can easily tell them apart though there may be blur area. Sometimes a Japanese ranchu may look like a Thai ranchu and a Thai ranchu may look like a Japanese ranchu.

Butchufly, if you want to know more, come and join us for our gathering. We can all learn together. It will be fun and enjoyable. If you need to break the ice, I can invite you for kopi.

Sometimes it is very difficult to really explain why a ranchu looks Jap/Thai/Sing. It is the very subtle differences that tells them apart.

But not all the time we can be right .... esp when the quality differences are now rather insignificant nowadays.

Think observation is key to appreciation of the ranchus. ;)

It is a constant learning process ;)

Interesting. If you all have some session to learn more, please let me know. Will join if possible.

Now you see the truth of me. :rolleyes:

CH Leong is waiting for your reply!

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Sotong, why no response for kopi? I will include kaya toast for the session.

Haha, sorry guys for my late reply and Ranchu lover know I moved around Singapore so it's a little difficult for me to be on line most of the time.

Well, no problem, I just want to know who's coming and Ranchu lover do you have any more BBR for door gift? There is a requirement to apply permit from Police if gathering is more than five people.

Rgds
CHLeong

Meet in a house no need for permit, especially your katong bungalow.

Yep. Guppy Club ever held an open house at Samuelphan's place last year. About 20+ people, no need permit one lah.

Wonder if Sotong King would be interested in joining in???

Next week's gathering, we will be giving away another batch of bbrs (provided, touch wood, nothing happen to the bbrs). All "old bird", newcomer to ranchus and those who wants to learn more may also come and join us. We are thinking of providing lunch as well. Just a gathering of ranchu appreciation and fellowship with all who share the same interest. Those requiring special meals (eg. muslim, or vegetarian) kindly also indicate your preference.

Oh, BTW no charge for the meals and the bbrs.

No age barrier, no race barrier, and no status barrier. Please pm CH Leong or myself. We will be sharing more of ranchu keeping. We are also planning to conduct some form of "lesson" on ranchu some time at later gatherings. There is also a very good chance you might get to meet Mr Kashino and Mr Mita himself later in the year. No promise but we will try (try only).

With free bbrs, it will only cost you the tub and food for your ranchu to start this hobby. Those who came to my home to collect the bbr and have seen the parent ranchus will know that it is no ordinary bbrs that we are giving away.

Dear Sotong King,
I sincerely invite you on a personal note to join us, no punk intended.

CHLeong

You are arranging for catering har?? Free food leh, later many people turn up, how? Haha :D

Hey, you serious?

You guys sure no need permit? Later we kanna discuss inside police station. ;)

CH Leong

Cool :p :p :p

Police Commissioner is my good friend. Unfortunately he does not keep ranchu.

Don't get you. I am a law abiding citizen:rolleyes: