Schmike:i believe the picture you reference is from d's room , which they do not have palmas palmas in their list, they simply just lump them together,the other websites posting brown buetties were in year 2008, when palmas palmas were elusive to japs and i believe it poses a difficulty as for knowing them enough and to id them as palmas palmas , and if i nv remember wrongly palmas palmas was named new speciea third prize in 09 aquarama...i maybe wrong too
