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Old 29-09-2008, 07:05 PM   #1
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Default Do anyone add anything else into shrimp tank for optimal conditions??

for shrimp tanks with plants using GEX soil or ADA soil. Do you add anything other than dechlorinator such as plant fertilizers, seachem equilibrium or deep sea old mud etc?

and how much do you think what you added helps your shrimp tank to thrive better
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Old 29-09-2008, 07:46 PM   #2
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i m using ktp leaves(1 leaf for a 211)

i find that they eat the leaves when i dun feed them for more den 2 days, ie can be used as a convenient snack or emergency food.. accidental find, cos i stay in hall and once i cant get back in time(for 5 days!!!), i tot sure gone case, but come back all my ktp left the veins and the shrimps seems pretty happy..(i m using ard 4 leaves at that time)

can be used to bring down PH too, though make water yellowish, i soak them in a pail for a couple of days before adding in if i m adding more den one leaf.

also using old sea mud and mosura mineral plus, old sea mud in my ohf instead of tank.. i personally do not c a diff.. prob cos mine r cherries and not crs..
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Old 29-09-2008, 08:23 PM   #3
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Anyone know if Shrimp Tonic is in Singapore? The manufacturer claims it can reduce CRS deaths. I think a lot of bros encountered unexplained pregnant CRS deaths, like I used to.
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Old 29-09-2008, 08:31 PM   #4
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i have tot of adding plant fertilizers (seachem flourish)...but the fertilizers contains copper? and i read that shrimps are highly sensitive to copper...so is it advisable to add?
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to start off with, i have used seachem equilibrium tgt with my GEX Soil which is supposedly to increase the mineral content in the water (calcium, magnesium etc)

but one thing about this Seachem equilibrium is that it raises the GH, KH and PH to quite a high level (ph above 8)

shrimps are alright. but recently, they seem to start disappearing!!!
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Old 29-09-2008, 08:42 PM   #6
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to start off with, i have used seachem equilibrium tgt with my GEX Soil which is supposedly to increase the mineral content in the water (calcium, magnesium etc)

but one thing about this Seachem equilibrium is that it raises the GH, KH and PH to quite a high level (ph above 8)

shrimps are alright. but recently, they seem to start disappearing!!!
Quite expected, to keep shrimps, you need constant pH. If you going to add something that will increase pH, the PH will dift higher and untill a point your shrimps cannot take it. Better use product that are designed for shrimps, Seachem equilibrium is designed for planted tank. Use at your own risk.
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Old 29-09-2008, 10:49 PM   #7
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to start off with, i have used seachem equilibrium tgt with my GEX Soil which is supposedly to increase the mineral content in the water (calcium, magnesium etc)

but one thing about this Seachem equilibrium is that it raises the GH, KH and PH to quite a high level (ph above 8)

shrimps are alright. but recently, they seem to start disappearing!!!
dunno bout other stuffs in seachem but i tink PH8 for cherries r ok, BUT NOT FOR CRS

kh and gh realli not much of an issue actually, unless too low.. high i dun tink its a problem.. anw u cant reach too high, the calcium and magnesium will precipitate out as its carbonate salt, forming a natural barrier, though i not 100% sure bout that, dun wan to mislead u..
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Old 30-09-2008, 08:59 AM   #8
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i have tot of adding plant fertilizers (seachem flourish)...but the fertilizers contains copper? and i read that shrimps are highly sensitive to copper...so is it advisable to add?
Minimal dosage of fertilizer to me is fine but have to make sure all ferts must be consumed by plants. When plants shortage one or more nutrient they start deficient can't take up certain minerals anymore so all these left over become time bomb. Fast oxidised minerals require regualr replacement to keep water chemistry constant. BTW, copper is toxic to shrimp but plants do require it so a very careful dosage is critical.

Old Sea Mud is capable to bind toxics, organic and non-organic substance. In the other word it increase REDOX in tank water. Safe mineral supplement for shrimps I have tested several brands find that MineralPlus is safe even slightly overdose.

Water change -> according to WC volume add MineralPlus to instruction -> add OldSeaMud powder. Then, if you have a ORP meter you will see reading increase.
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Old 30-09-2008, 11:16 PM   #9
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add viagra into tank shrimps will breed faster.. haha..

hmm de copper thing.. i m not 100% sure but i heard in ferts they use chelated copper which is shrimp safe..

cos even in small amounts, normal copper can screw up our little critters' nervous system pretty fast.. so i tink ferts might be safe in reasonably small amt due to copper being chelated..
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Minimal dosage of fertilizer to me is fine but have to make sure all ferts must be consumed by plants. When plants shortage one or more nutrient they start deficient can't take up certain minerals anymore so all these left over become time bomb. Fast oxidised minerals require regualr replacement to keep water chemistry constant. BTW, copper is toxic to shrimp but plants do require it so a very careful dosage is critical.

Old Sea Mud is capable to bind toxics, organic and non-organic substance. In the other word it increase REDOX in tank water. Safe mineral supplement for shrimps I have tested several brands find that MineralPlus is safe even slightly overdose.

Water change -> according to WC volume add MineralPlus to instruction -> add OldSeaMud powder. Then, if you have a ORP meter you will see reading increase.
Thank for sharing, I have observed the same thing.

I have also realised that a few tiny scoops of Old Sea Mud powder increase ORP value, the rock form is not capable not able of affecting the water in measurable parameters. I guess powder form is more ready to put into action to clean the water. I have switched to Old Sea Mud Powder for ease of use, effectiveness and cost efficieny.
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