The Rep System

[jwhtan]

Originally Posted by TOM32

1. I do not like your Thread - This will discourage bros posting new thread
on subject about aros especially the newbies
whom may have little knowledge or nothing.
They may afraid that their thread will be out
of point - hence get zap.
Sorry, i do not mean all newbies has little
knowledge - they are very experienced ones
too.

2. I disagree with your opinion - This will kill freedom of view/opinion
Or you speak against my view

We should encourage bros to put up more threads and i believe that the purpose of AF and why bros/siss are here. These are what i believe Moderators are trying to discourage by adopting this reputation system. We want the system to work but on the otherhand we tell bros not to bother too much about the "rep" point as long as it does not fall beyong -10 sound rather contraditing. For the system to work well, bros must be driven to valued their "rep" point. I am very sure, with very single point zapped, his emotion/feeling will be affected especially without even knowing "WHY". It is good if he/she is rightfully zapped by a member. This make job much easier for the moderator cos now you have members acting as your neigbourhood police watch group. But, we need a double proof system to managed the "Down" or "Zap" or else it will be abused and it will HURT bros and discourage them to free opnion or participation. Eventually, AF may become a monotonous and bore. Imagine, everybody having same opinion

Sirs, our government of parliament also do not want that to happen, they put in place some Neutral Persons to speak out. We need these type of bros in AF too.

In my opinion, may I seek your reconsideration to study my proposal:

You need at least 2 persons to down "1 point" on the same "subject" within 24 hours before the zap is counted. 4 persons = 2 points and so on..........
Sir, this will eliminate personal attack. There will bound to have many bros to speak against a bro if his thread is flamming, insulting or attacking.
But why allow only a person to down a bro for just a different opinion.

The whole thing is abt opinion ... actually even mods decision is all on opinions .. let's say this guy keeps posting something for sale, and its always the same thing ... so we tell him, u hv been consistently selling this stuff, pls do post ur sale at commercial ... i tell u, there'll be 3 kinds of replies .. 1) I not making profit/making very little profit, so its not commercial 2) this is a good lobang, i'm juz sharing lobang, isn't AF all abt sharing ? 3) sorry, it is not my intention to circumvent the guidelines, i'll do so in future .. so wat does tat say ? we'll insist and enforce our guidelines .. but obviously those who disagree will disagree, so again tat is abt opinions .. we can't even conclude the member is wrong .. juz tat in this forum, the mods opinion counts in moderating ...

In this rep system, the opinion is left to the members .. why not two members .. if the post or thread is genuinely bad, tat member will not be zapped by one, he'll be zapped by many, to get two members to zap same post is quite unlikely ...

I disagree with ur opinion will kill freedom of speech/opinion ? - personally i dun think so, disagreeing is by itself an opinion ... why we allow this disagreement to turn to zapping ... in many scenarios we come across, the thread inevitably turns into flaming when disagreement occurs .. many do not want to give their opinion and they just keep quiet, this system allows them to have a say, the silent majority to have a say, in their opinions w/o engaging in the verbal war .

In time to come, most members will hv their rep points gradually increase.

Discourage newbie threads ? not necessarily so, but i hope to discourage frivolous multiple postings of the same thread .. yesterday, one member posted 3 threads " Are u Asian" in arotalk, in chat and in gatherings ... the thread is inappropriate and worse, it spams 3 forums .. so where do we draw a line wat to encourage, discourage ? other than the arotalk FAQ (which very little people read), we've also hv Freshwater Forum Resources and Articles, Planted Forum Resources and Articles, Marine Resources and Articles, why not read up all this before starting a new thread ? I understand newbie concerns, because i'm a newbie in certain aspects too but the archive has so many things to read ? why start another thread on the same ? seriously the level of discussion cannot improve unless the members start to consider this a serious forum .. the mods can lead by starting new threads ... I hv one question for all to ponder ... where are those guys that started with us in 2000/2001/even 2002 ... how many are still here, besides wrx, EH etc still quite active, so many hv actually very little postings since .. wat is the reason ? the forum has too little topic of good discussion and too many frivolous postings/threads .. " why my aro dun eat ? " or " will my 8" flowerhorn kill my 10" aro?" ... in a forum having a demographics as wide as AF, moderating cannot eradicate these postings, it cannot bring the level of discussion higher ... i'll say, let's cut this crap threads out ... but how to do this ? closing all those threads ? tat will be draconian .. actually even those frivolous threads hv their set of supporters, and not because they think it shd be here but because they think its entertaining .. so this method is to give the power of moderating to the members with some safeguards thrown in. U can't eliminate relationship problem... who dun like who ? but we can prevent the continuous zapping of the same person by the same person ... and tat's wat we hv done