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Old 28-03-2011, 02:21 PM   #71
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so what is it abt PAP that makes them win the election year in year out ??

until such time this puzzle is solved, i dun see how the opposition can get anywhere

let's look at East Coast GRC 2006

100,000 voters

PAP wins 63.9%
WP wins 36.1%

This term Jayakumar and Abdullah Tarmugi out

Can WP sway 14% of the votes ?? In raw numbers, WP has to sway 14,000 voters that previously voted for PAP to vote for them.

Last Election, WP fielded

1. Chia Ti Lik
2. Perry Tong
3. Brandon Siow
4. Eric Tan
5. Abdul Rahim

Chia Ti Lik has now formed his own party, Socialist Front

The rest I dunno WTF happened to them ..... No sound no picture

This East Coast GRC looks like the most vulnerable but what is the opposition doing ?? They doing seriously Fuk All Nothing
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Old 28-03-2011, 02:33 PM   #72
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This East Coast GRC looks like the most vulnerable but what is the opposition doing ?? They doing seriously Fuk All Nothing
Until such a time, where the Oppositions unite and stop trying out on all seats per party, they will continue to be beaten by PAP.

They can choose to field their best candidates against PAP's weakest wards and not have multiple parties vying for the same ward, or they can choose to be beaten hands down.

Everyone currently wants to prove something, but not uniting.
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Old 28-03-2011, 02:39 PM   #73
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Seriously this East Coast GRC is there to be won

It is helmed this term by Mr Lim " Economy no good, workers CPF cannot be restored but economy good enough to increase President pay " Boon Heng.

and

Mr Raymond " Traffic congestion impose ERP. Still congestion, higher ERP " Lim.

And then what is the opposition doing ?

All fighting to become " Secretary General " of a new party.

It is a " Everybody wants to rule the world " thingy.
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Old 28-03-2011, 02:56 PM   #74
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Year in, year out ...... opposition does the same thing during elections but yet they expect a different outcome ..... they expect the electorate to have an awakening ...... that the people will either wake up from their slumber or the younger generation to have a different mindset and vote the opposition .... I dunno but deep inside, I dun think it's gonna work
Actually we can't really see what the opposition can do for us if we dun give them a chance to sit in. How do you expect them to hold Meet-The-People session if there is no ward for them to serve?

See what they have in the newsletter they are selling and see what they can offer there. Some of their points are very different and may not be practical, but I can see WP Slyvia Lim is doing her best as a NCMP already. Steve Chai was also ok and so was the late Jeyaratnam back then.

Give them a chance to serve us.
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Old 28-03-2011, 03:04 PM   #75
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Actually we can't really see what the opposition can do for us if we dun give them a chance to sit in. How do you expect them to hold Meet-The-People session if there is no ward for them to serve?

See what they have in the newsletter they are selling and see what they can offer there. Some of their points are very different and may not be practical, but I can see WP Slyvia Lim is doing her best as a NCMP already. Steve Chai was also ok and so was the late Jeyaratnam back then.

Give them a chance to serve us.
I am not even talking abt the opposition in Parliament. I am talking abt what these people are doing to win the votes. Year in, year out, they fight each other. They all want to be Secretary General. Desmond Lim, Chia Ti Lik, Goh Meng Seng. Everybody who is in for a while.

First things first. This is a municipal election. If u can't even win over the voters, dun even go on abt what u can do in Parliament.
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Old 28-03-2011, 03:04 PM   #76
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Actually we can't really see what the opposition can do for us if we dun give them a chance to sit in. How do you expect them to hold Meet-The-People session if there is no ward for them to serve?

See what they have in the newsletter they are selling and see what they can offer there. Some of their points are very different and may not be practical, but I can see WP Slyvia Lim is doing her best as a NCMP already. Steve Chai was also ok and so was the late Jeyaratnam back then.

Give them a chance to serve us.
So far..opposition who are elected. served well. thats what I can see in Mr Chiam. Humble..too bad we dun have much Chiam See Tong ( Tahan Temporary)
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Old 28-03-2011, 03:18 PM   #77
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I am not even talking abt the opposition in Parliament. I am talking abt what these people are doing to win the votes. Year in, year out, they fight each other. They all want to be Secretary General. Desmond Lim, Chia Ti Lik, Goh Meng Seng. Everybody who is in for a while.

First things first. This is a municipal election. If u can't even win over the voters, dun even go on abt what u can do in Parliament.
Haha.... every party have their fights in the party. Do you think our man in white dun have such fights? It's just not being openly advertised in the news. My colleague told of how fierce it is to get notice in the currrent party committee, you have to be "outstanding" to be given a chance.

Maybe these 3 people are not deserving to be in if they cannot resolve their fights after so long.
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Old 28-03-2011, 03:25 PM   #78
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Haha.... every party have their fights in the party. Do you think our man in white dun have such fights? It's just not being openly advertised in the news. My colleague told of how fierce it is to get notice in the currrent party committee, you have to be "outstanding" to be given a chance.

Maybe these 3 people are not deserving to be in if they cannot resolve their fights after so long.
Take a leaf from Chiam and Low. They are always at their constituency. Wakes, coffee shop, celebrations whatever. But where are the candidates for East Coast GRC ? Haven't decided yet ? Who is going to vote for someone they dunno ? bar the fervent anti-Pap voters, in which case u can put a dog, a cat, a mouse and an arowana and still get the same number of votes.

I do believe this GE is one that has the potential to throw up many surprises. We are talking abt people born in late 1980s being eligible to vote, a whole new generation of voters that uses the internet. The problem is the opposition is not doing the groundwork to win all these voters over.
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Old 28-03-2011, 03:50 PM   #79
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True... true...

I got a friend in the WP and he tells me that they are reaching out to the younger generation through the Web since the last election. The thin specky guy you see following Mr Low in walk-about on TV is their IT guy. They have a very small group of people doing the work behind which we dun see.

I believe this time round, we will see a lot of people voting as the opposition is spreading out their forces very thin to get everyone a chance to vote. So vote wisely.
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Old 28-03-2011, 03:57 PM   #80
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East Coast GRC new guy should be Lim " Everytime I received my CPF statement, I feel so rich........" Swee Say.

Upturn the downturn.
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