Top reasons why shrimps die

Originally Posted by goody992828

wow bro, seems like you are in the same boat as me..... well probably with have not spend enough effort in keeping them... but I believe a Chiller will definately helps alot in keeping them.... that why I am in the mist of bargain hunting for a chiller....

i don't mind getting a chiller if it's cheap and small.
i think CRS need chiller. it can't simply survive just the fan itself. cox it didn't really cool down the tempreture. zZ

[silane]

Originally Posted by Ningning

hmm silane since u seem to be the genie...

*rubs lamp* i wish to know...

my ph is at 6.6 in the day time. 6.4 at night. checked with pinpoint monitor which has just been checked by the shop. ph monitor is working and accurate.

the tank has been running for months since may the 1st( labour day)

i recently changed my filter.

it's filled with. wool, japanese mat, biohome plus and ceremic ring. old media is mixed with the new media. i have added 2 pieces of coral chips.

i'm pouring seachem stability every week. to aid in bb.

okie here's the mystery.

since last month again. my weak sakuras and cherries are the ones dying, almost 1 everyday without fail. my crs are berrying and being spared. of coz.. i rather sakuras die then my crs. but... i wish to know...

what is the cause? why are the crs spared and not the cherries and sakura?

issit coz my tank is bias? LOL!!!

LOL... i really dont know why. sian.

can u do the ph measurements without light? And next day with light. Both at night and day.

[Ningning]

okie. will take measurements. give u the results on sunday.

Originally Posted by anthony

i don't mind getting a chiller if it's cheap and small.
i think CRS need chiller. it can't simply survive just the fan itself. cox it didn't really cool down the tempreture. zZ

Hmm cheap might not be that cheap, unless a second hand, small size, don't think they wil be very compact as well as there is a compressor in it. Which takes up quite a huge place I guess....

[tanhann]

Originally Posted by anthony

i don't mind getting a chiller if it's cheap and small.
i think CRS need chiller. it can't simply survive just the fan itself. cox it didn't really cool down the tempreture. zZ

If you really have an intention to keep CRS especially good grade, don't need rocket mathematics. I think it costs lesser to get a chiller rather than buy them in high qty and they cannot survive eventually weighing you down in monetary. Moreover, it also cause stress. Not worth it to forgo the chiller in your setup in the long run.

[Ningning]

Originally Posted by silane

can u do the ph measurements without light? And next day with light. Both at night and day.

oh ya silane.. forgot to add..

this happened during the H1N1 timing.. i remember because i was confined at home for 8 days mc. -.-"

i did my usual WC with same amount of anti - chlorine.

but but but.. i took out the peat from my canister tts been inside for months.

next few days, sakuras died one by one.

then... the canister spoilt thanks to my dogs.

got a new one 2 days later.. has the BB inside the old media died?

[elimmel]

2 days your old media left in the spoilt canister?
then after which your transferred into new canister?... you introduced ammonia into your tank system as the BB in the old canister would have died without proper waterflow bringing O2 to the biomedia.

[Ningning]

Originally Posted by elimmel

2 days your old media left in the spoilt canister?
then after which your transferred into new canister?... you introduced ammonia into your tank system as the BB in the old canister would have died without proper waterflow bringing O2 to the biomedia.

aiya~! *stab myself* wah elimmel u pro.. tyty..

wth... really now banging my head on the wall.

so i guess the tank has to RECYCLE LA!! OMG!! my nightmare has just begun! AGAIN!! *fainted* never mind.. got experience liao.. last time this happen before also.

but wait.. i tot ammonia kill very quick and fast? how come only one die each day?

another thing is... the sakuras started dying even before the canister spoilt.. right after i removed the peat.. is it because removing the peat i removed some BB also?

then when there's ammonia spike, i thought the ph will drop? how come it didnt?

[elimmel]

when i moved my 1.5ft CPO and cherry tank last month to my new place, it wiped out 1 CPO and at least 70+++ cherries over a 1 week period. it took me 2hrs to move the tank and resetup.... BB in my eheim liberty dead.

i did the same for my 2ft CRS tank with no fatalities that i could see. but this tank is using an eheim ecco pro and pretty densely planted so that helped. increase aeration with air pump too.

what could have happend when peat removed - change in water parameters. gunk accumulated in the peat could have caused a mini cycle.

why shrimps didn't get wiped out fast - cherries/sakuras quite tough. coupled with the plants helping to take up some of the ammonia. and at lower temps, ammonia/nitrite toxicity is lowered.

why pH did not crash - KH and GH buffer pH

all these are pure speculation of course

[Ningning]

Originally Posted by elimmel

when i moved my 1.5ft CPO and cherry tank last month to my new place, it wiped out 1 CPO and at least 70+++ cherries over a 1 week period. it took me 2hrs to move the tank and resetup.... BB in my eheim liberty dead.

i did the same for my 2ft CRS tank with no fatalities that i could see. but this tank is using an eheim ecco pro and pretty densely planted so that helped. increase aeration with air pump too.

what could have happend when peat removed - change in water parameters. gunk accumulated in the peat could have caused a mini cycle.

why shrimps didn't get wiped out fast - cherries/sakuras quite tough. coupled with the plants helping to take up some of the ammonia. and at lower temps, ammonia/nitrite toxicity is lowered.

why pH did not crash - KH and GH buffer pH

all these are pure speculation of course

wah! ur so smart.

lol.. all ur logic makes alot of sense.

btw, since your bb all died, what did u do?

what to do during a mini cycle?

but if my bb in my filter died like yours(which i think it obviously did since the canister wasn't running for 2 days), the death toll is maximum 20 stretch over an estimated of 1 month.

but.... one thing doesn't add up. my sakuras die but my mosura and crs didn't.. AHA!! thats the catch to the whole puzzle.

*pray to god* oh mighty god.. TELL ME WHY!

im going to get test kits for everything soon.