Historic Trump-Kim summit set for Jun 12 in Singapore - Page 4

globalcookie · 31-05-2018, 01:21 AM

Than trump wont be happy

globalcookie · 02-06-2018, 01:03 PM

US-North Korea summit back on, Trump says after meeting Kim envoy

WASHINGTON: US President Donald Trump said on Friday (Jun 1) he will meet North Korea's Kim Jong Un as originally scheduled on Jun 12 for a historic summit after extraordinary Oval Office talks with a top envoy from Pyongyang.

Speaking after more than an hour of*talks with Kim Yong Chol*in the Oval Office, Trump told reporters that denuclearisation - and a formal end to the decades-old Korean war - would be on the table in Singapore.

But the US leader warned that he did not expect to immediately sign a deal to bring a halt to the North's nuclear program.

"I never said it goes in one meeting. I think it's going to be a process, but the relationships are building and that's very positive," he said, after waving farewell to the North Korean envoy, Kim's right-hand man.

ENDING THE WAR

Trump said they had discussed formally ending the Korean War, which has been largely frozen since an armistice ended hostilities, but not the underlying conflict, in 1953. Since then, there have been occasional clashes on the divided peninsula.

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"We talked about it. We talked about ending the war," Trump said.

"Historically it's very important, but we'll see. We did discuss that, the ending of the Korean War. Can you believe we're talking about the ending of the Korean War?"

Washington is determined that Kim should agree to what US officials call the "complete, verifiable and irreversible" end of North Korea's nuclear weapons and intercontinental missile programs.

Kim says he is committed to "denuclearisation" in some form, but he is expected to demand security guarantees - one of which could be an formal end to the conflict with the US and South Korea.

Most expert observers are sceptical that even an unprecedented summit between the two leaders can lead to a rapid breakthrough, and Trump admitted it would be a long and difficult process.

"We're not going to go in and sign something on June 12. We never were. I told him today, 'Take your time'," he said, adding nevertheless that he expects "a really positive result in the end."

Kim Yong Chol, vice chairman of the ruling party executive and the most senior North Korean to visit the United States in 18 years, spent almost 90 minutes in the Oval Office.

Afterwards, Trump and US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo walked the*North's small delegation*to their waiting cars, smiling and shaking hands in front of the media before the motorcade pulled away.

SECURITY GUARANTEES

North Korean officials said Kim Yong Chol was expected to return to Pyongyang shortly. Meanwhile, discussions between US and North Korean officials continue in Singapore and in the Demilitarized Zone between North and South Korea.

On Thursday, Kim Jong Un told Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov that his commitment to denuclearization remains "unchanged and consistent and fixed," but experts warn he will seek concessions from Washington.

In addition to an end to the war, he is likely to seek international recognition as well as guarantees against any strike by the US forces stationed in South Korea.

As expected, Kim Yong Chol handed Trump a letter from Kim that may clear up some of the questions. The US leader said the missive was "very nice" - but then admitted he had not yet read it. An aide later confirmed he did after the talks.

The Oval Office talks and letter delivery came only a week after Trump threatened to consign the entire process to history,*abruptly cancelling the summit*in a sharply worded letter, only to revive preparations shortly afterwards.

Trump said that, after Friday's talks, the parties are "totally over that and now we're going to deal and we're going to really start a process."

Since the short-lived boycott threat, diplomats from both countries have conducted an intense flurry of talks, culminating this week when Pompeo sat down in New York with Kim's envoy.

'THEIR DECISION'

Pompeo said on Thursday that, after what have now been two meetings with Kim Jong Un and three with Kim Yong Chol, he believes the North is at least ready to consider addressing US demands for denuclearization.

"I believe they are contemplating a path forward. They can make a strategic shift. One that their country has not been prepared to make before. This will obviously be their decision," he said.

The flurry of diplomacy has also seen a rapprochement on the Korean peninsula, with the two Koreas holding high-level talks Friday at the border truce village of Panmunjom.

The meeting followed two landmark summits between the leaders of North and South Korea in the last five weeks.

North and South Korea agreed to hold more meetings throughout this month to carry out the agreements reached between their leaders at the April summit, according to a joint statement issued after Friday's talks.

Very good development.

satan_gal · 04-06-2018, 02:27 PM

https://mothership.sg/2018/06/kim-jo...tel-singapore/

Fullerton Hotel for Kim
The Washington Post has reported on June 1 that North Korea leader Kim Jong-un would like to stay at the Fullerton Hotel when he comes by Singapore for his meeting with United States president Donald Trump on June 12.

However, a tricky problem has surfaced: Should and can the US pay for the North Korean leader’s preferred choice of lodging at the mouth of Singapore River?

Fullerton Hotel is a five-star luxury hotel that reportedly charges up to US$6,000 (S$8,030) a night for one of its fancier presidential suites.

Who is going to pay for Kim’s lodging? Singapore?
North Korea is a “prideful but cash-poor pariah state”, according to WP.

The US is open to covering the costs, it was reported, but it is mindful that Pyongyang may view America footing the bill as insulting.

As a result, US planners are considering asking the host country of Singapore to pay for the North Korean delegation’s bill, WP said.

Moreover, any payment for North Korea’s accommodations would run afoul of US Treasury Department sanctions, but exceptions can be made.

However, how long this list of exceptions can end up becoming, will make the issue trickier with public disclosure and scrutiny.

Trump will most likely stay at the Shangri-La, a hotel accustomed to hosting high-security events.

Trump and Kim to meet in Sentosa
WP also reported that Capella hotel on Sentosa is likely to be the place of the official meeting between Trump and Kim.

A WP reporter saw construction crews already erecting tents and other facilities, but was instructed to leave the premises after interacting with the US planning delegation there.

Situated off Singapore’s southeast coast, the hotel resort is relatively secluded, which appeals to the US and North Korean officials.

History of North Korea asking others to pay
North Korea has a history of making bold monetary demands.

South Korea set aside US$2.6 million to cover travel accommodations for a North Korean cheering squad, an art troupe and other members of the visiting delegation at the 2018 Olympics in PyeongChang.

The International Olympic Committee paid for 22 North Korean athletes to travel to the event.

In 2014, North Korea hosted then-US Director of National Intelligence James R. Clapper Jr. to an “elaborate 12-course Korean meal” when he went there to retrieve two prisoners, only to ask him to pay for the dinner later.

millenium · 04-06-2018, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by satan_gal

https://mothership.sg/2018/06/kim-jo...tel-singapore/

Fullerton Hotel for Kim
The Washington Post has reported on June 1 that North Korea leader Kim Jong-un would like to stay at the Fullerton Hotel when he comes by Singapore for his meeting with United States president Donald Trump on June 12.

However, a tricky problem has surfaced: Should and can the US pay for the North Korean leader’s preferred choice of lodging at the mouth of Singapore River?

Fullerton Hotel is a five-star luxury hotel that reportedly charges up to US$6,000 (S$8,030) a night for one of its fancier presidential suites.

Who is going to pay for Kim’s lodging? Singapore?
North Korea is a “prideful but cash-poor pariah state”, according to WP.

The US is open to covering the costs, it was reported, but it is mindful that Pyongyang may view America footing the bill as insulting.

As a result, US planners are considering asking the host country of Singapore to pay for the North Korean delegation’s bill, WP said.

Moreover, any payment for North Korea’s accommodations would run afoul of US Treasury Department sanctions, but exceptions can be made.

However, how long this list of exceptions can end up becoming, will make the issue trickier with public disclosure and scrutiny.

Trump will most likely stay at the Shangri-La, a hotel accustomed to hosting high-security events.

Trump and Kim to meet in Sentosa
WP also reported that Capella hotel on Sentosa is likely to be the place of the official meeting between Trump and Kim.

A WP reporter saw construction crews already erecting tents and other facilities, but was instructed to leave the premises after interacting with the US planning delegation there.

Situated off Singapore’s southeast coast, the hotel resort is relatively secluded, which appeals to the US and North Korean officials.

History of North Korea asking others to pay
North Korea has a history of making bold monetary demands.

South Korea set aside US$2.6 million to cover travel accommodations for a North Korean cheering squad, an art troupe and other members of the visiting delegation at the 2018 Olympics in PyeongChang.

The International Olympic Committee paid for 22 North Korean athletes to travel to the event.

In 2014, North Korea hosted then-US Director of National Intelligence James R. Clapper Jr. to an “elaborate 12-course Korean meal” when he went there to retrieve two prisoners, only to ask him to pay for the dinner later.

Sure or not? Why we kenna pay and pay? Planning for whole group eat and play without us, we already arrowed to foot the bills?

streetsmart73 · 04-06-2018, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by millenium

Sure or not? Why we kenna pay and pay? Planning for whole group eat and play without us, we already arrowed to foot the bills?

little red dot loves to help mah

Robson · 04-06-2018, 09:57 PM

Think positive. We are paying little yet it will be broadcast worldwide. Better then F1. It’s fantastic in term of tourism dollars.

millenium · 04-06-2018, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robson

Think positive. We are paying little yet it will be broadcast worldwide. Better then F1. It’s fantastic in term of tourism dollars.

First is buikim n trump card. Now it will be the whole group. Everything they say just ok, like that got dignity?

Robson · 04-06-2018, 11:22 PM

Why didn’t they go big horse or bang cock? Many other destination? Only spore willing to foot the bill? Really cannot give ourselves some credit?

millenium · 05-06-2018, 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robson

Why didn’t they go big horse or bang cock? Many other destination? Only spore willing to foot the bill? Really cannot give ourselves some credit?

Trump know we can be bullied easily. Sure willing to pay. Our island very easy to secure their safety. Also, we are neutral.

richardg · 05-06-2018, 09:08 AM

Event will bring us prestige, standing and recognition.
Paying is worth it
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31-05-2018, 01:21 AM	#31
globalcookie Dragon Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,446	Than trump wont be happy

02-06-2018, 01:03 PM	#32
globalcookie Dragon Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,446	US-North Korea summit back on, Trump says after meeting Kim envoy WASHINGTON: US President Donald Trump said on Friday (Jun 1) he will meet North Korea's Kim Jong Un as originally scheduled on Jun 12 for a historic summit after extraordinary Oval Office talks with a top envoy from Pyongyang. Speaking after more than an hour oftalks with Kim Yong Cholin the Oval Office, Trump told reporters that denuclearisation - and a formal end to the decades-old Korean war - would be on the table in Singapore. But the US leader warned that he did not expect to immediately sign a deal to bring a halt to the North's nuclear program. "I never said it goes in one meeting. I think it's going to be a process, but the relationships are building and that's very positive," he said, after waving farewell to the North Korean envoy, Kim's right-hand man. ENDING THE WAR Trump said they had discussed formally ending the Korean War, which has been largely frozen since an armistice ended hostilities, but not the underlying conflict, in 1953. Since then, there have been occasional clashes on the divided peninsula. Advertisement "We talked about it. We talked about ending the war," Trump said. "Historically it's very important, but we'll see. We did discuss that, the ending of the Korean War. Can you believe we're talking about the ending of the Korean War?" Washington is determined that Kim should agree to what US officials call the "complete, verifiable and irreversible" end of North Korea's nuclear weapons and intercontinental missile programs. Kim says he is committed to "denuclearisation" in some form, but he is expected to demand security guarantees - one of which could be an formal end to the conflict with the US and South Korea. Most expert observers are sceptical that even an unprecedented summit between the two leaders can lead to a rapid breakthrough, and Trump admitted it would be a long and difficult process. "We're not going to go in and sign something on June 12. We never were. I told him today, 'Take your time'," he said, adding nevertheless that he expects "a really positive result in the end." Kim Yong Chol, vice chairman of the ruling party executive and the most senior North Korean to visit the United States in 18 years, spent almost 90 minutes in the Oval Office. Afterwards, Trump and US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo walked theNorth's small delegationto their waiting cars, smiling and shaking hands in front of the media before the motorcade pulled away. SECURITY GUARANTEES North Korean officials said Kim Yong Chol was expected to return to Pyongyang shortly. Meanwhile, discussions between US and North Korean officials continue in Singapore and in the Demilitarized Zone between North and South Korea. On Thursday, Kim Jong Un told Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov that his commitment to denuclearization remains "unchanged and consistent and fixed," but experts warn he will seek concessions from Washington. In addition to an end to the war, he is likely to seek international recognition as well as guarantees against any strike by the US forces stationed in South Korea. As expected, Kim Yong Chol handed Trump a letter from Kim that may clear up some of the questions. The US leader said the missive was "very nice" - but then admitted he had not yet read it. An aide later confirmed he did after the talks. The Oval Office talks and letter delivery came only a week after Trump threatened to consign the entire process to history,abruptly cancelling the summitin a sharply worded letter, only to revive preparations shortly afterwards. Trump said that, after Friday's talks, the parties are "totally over that and now we're going to deal and we're going to really start a process." Since the short-lived boycott threat, diplomats from both countries have conducted an intense flurry of talks, culminating this week when Pompeo sat down in New York with Kim's envoy. 'THEIR DECISION' Pompeo said on Thursday that, after what have now been two meetings with Kim Jong Un and three with Kim Yong Chol, he believes the North is at least ready to consider addressing US demands for denuclearization. "I believe they are contemplating a path forward. They can make a strategic shift. One that their country has not been prepared to make before. This will obviously be their decision," he said. The flurry of diplomacy has also seen a rapprochement on the Korean peninsula, with the two Koreas holding high-level talks Friday at the border truce village of Panmunjom. The meeting followed two landmark summits between the leaders of North and South Korea in the last five weeks. North and South Korea agreed to hold more meetings throughout this month to carry out the agreements reached between their leaders at the April summit, according to a joint statement issued after Friday's talks. Very good development.

04-06-2018, 02:27 PM	#33
satan_gal Dragon Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,714	https://mothership.sg/2018/06/kim-jo...tel-singapore/ Fullerton Hotel for Kim The Washington Post has reported on June 1 that North Korea leader Kim Jong-un would like to stay at the Fullerton Hotel when he comes by Singapore for his meeting with United States president Donald Trump on June 12. However, a tricky problem has surfaced: Should and can the US pay for the North Korean leader’s preferred choice of lodging at the mouth of Singapore River? Fullerton Hotel is a five-star luxury hotel that reportedly charges up to US$6,000 (S$8,030) a night for one of its fancier presidential suites. Who is going to pay for Kim’s lodging? Singapore? North Korea is a “prideful but cash-poor pariah state”, according to WP. The US is open to covering the costs, it was reported, but it is mindful that Pyongyang may view America footing the bill as insulting. As a result, US planners are considering asking the host country of Singapore to pay for the North Korean delegation’s bill, WP said. Moreover, any payment for North Korea’s accommodations would run afoul of US Treasury Department sanctions, but exceptions can be made. However, how long this list of exceptions can end up becoming, will make the issue trickier with public disclosure and scrutiny. Trump will most likely stay at the Shangri-La, a hotel accustomed to hosting high-security events. Trump and Kim to meet in Sentosa WP also reported that Capella hotel on Sentosa is likely to be the place of the official meeting between Trump and Kim. A WP reporter saw construction crews already erecting tents and other facilities, but was instructed to leave the premises after interacting with the US planning delegation there. Situated off Singapore’s southeast coast, the hotel resort is relatively secluded, which appeals to the US and North Korean officials. History of North Korea asking others to pay North Korea has a history of making bold monetary demands. South Korea set aside US$2.6 million to cover travel accommodations for a North Korean cheering squad, an art troupe and other members of the visiting delegation at the 2018 Olympics in PyeongChang. The International Olympic Committee paid for 22 North Korean athletes to travel to the event. In 2014, North Korea hosted then-US Director of National Intelligence James R. Clapper Jr. to an “elaborate 12-course Korean meal” when he went there to retrieve two prisoners, only to ask him to pay for the dinner later.

04-06-2018, 09:57 PM	#36
Robson Arofanatic Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 441	Think positive. We are paying little yet it will be broadcast worldwide. Better then F1. It’s fantastic in term of tourism dollars.

04-06-2018, 11:22 PM	#38
Robson Arofanatic Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 441	Why didn’t they go big horse or bang cock? Many other destination? Only spore willing to foot the bill? Really cannot give ourselves some credit?

05-06-2018, 09:08 AM	#40
richardg Arofanatic Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 120	Event will bring us prestige, standing and recognition. Paying is worth it 2 cents anyone heard of doha before? if so, how did you hear of it?

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