singaporean youth ben davis joins epl club - Page 4

millenium · 18-07-2018, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ThomasLim

If granted, when will be the best time for him to come back and serve NS? 35?

Exempted? Or maybe defer based on yearly basis.

laodie · 18-07-2018, 10:19 AM

in this case, Mindef is right, they shouldn't bend the rules. He is not a true blue Singaporean anyway.

Robson · 19-07-2018, 12:28 AM

To me not even whether true blue singaporean. He is not even cap by Singapore. Despite our modest fifa ranking.

foxwagon · 19-07-2018, 08:50 AM

Singapore cannot win olympics medals in soccer not even sea games so mindef pragmatic

streetsmart73 · 19-07-2018, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by foxwagon

Govt or Mindef realistic
Soccer will never win gold in olympics

ah woody can still dream on

hkh · 22-07-2018, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by streetsmart73

ah woody can still dream on

He never mention it anymore........

mictok · 23-07-2018, 10:39 AM

For Ben, follow his dream and hopefully he can play in EPL. For Mindef, pls be consistence in the policy to maintain the standard. For Minister like Josephine, pls visit UK when Ben score a few goals and claim him as Sporean, all happy ending ever after.

streetsmart73 · 23-07-2018, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by hkh

He never mention it anymore........

dare not

foxwagon · 06-08-2018, 02:52 PM

Minister of Defence will issue a parliamentary statement today in parliament

stargazer · 06-08-2018, 10:04 PM

Parliament: Ben Davis is playing for Fulham as an English national, not as a Singapore citizen, says Ng Eng Hen

SINGAPORE - Teenage footballer Benjamin Davis is playing for English Premier League club Fulham FC as an English national, not as a Singapore citizen.

That was one of three reasons why the Ministry of Defence (Mindef) rejected the application for National Service (NS) deferment made for the 17-year-old by his father, Harvey Davis, Defence Minister Ng Eng Hen said in his reply to questions in parliament on Monday (Aug 6).

Benjamin signed a two-year professional contract with English Premier League club Fulham FC in June. He had left Singapore to join the club's academy in 2017.

In his profile on Fulham's website, Benjamin is said to "hail from Singapore", but his nationality is listed as English.

The second reason is that the senior Davis had "consistently refused to indicate" when his son would return to serve NS, if deferred. Davis said this was because there are "a lot of variables all dependent on his development and progression".

Third, Mindef said Davis indicated that Benjamin would still sign the contract with Fulham if deferment was not granted - as he did - and would consider the option for his son to renounce his Singapore citizenship in order to pursue his career.

"To grant deferment to Mr Ben Davis to pursue his personal development and professional career would be unfair to the many others who have served their NS dutifully as required, and not at a time of their choosing," said Dr Ng.

"The application by Mr Harvey Davis for his son's deferment is to further his son's professional career first and to the longest extent possible.

"He has been quite open about this. Singapore and her interests, including his son's NS obligations, are secondary consideration, if at all."

Dr Ng added there had been "no indication, commitment or plans" as to how Benjamin signing for Fulham would help raise football standards in Singapore, if deferred.

However, Davis had said his son would serve as an inspiration for the students registered to JSSL Singapore, a youth football academy he runs.

"To preserve equity for all national servicemen, Mindef will only defer individuals very selectively if their deferment serves Singapore's interest first and foremost, never their own," said Dr Ng.

This was the only basis to grant deferment to three sportsmen - swimmers Joseph Schooling and Quah Zheng Wen, and sailor Maximilian Soh - for them to train and compete at the Olympics.

In all three cases, clear expectations were laid out when deferment was given, in discussion with the Ministry of Culture, Community and Youth (MCCY) on the standards required for their training. If they do not meet the standards agreed upon, deferment would be curtailed.

Dr Ng also revealed that 13 NS defaulters were prosecuted after the new sentencing framework was established last year.

He said: "Some wanted to complete their university degree first before NS. Others said they had to support their families.

"In every judgment, the Courts dismiss these personal reasons, convicted and sentenced them to jail terms.

"Harsh as it is, the Enlistment Act is blind to "personal convenience and considerations", no matter how talented the individual or exceptional his circumstances."

Dr Ng also added that Mindef has provided support to national sportsmen, and revealed that 10 athletes have been given a short postponement of their enlistment to train for the Aug 18-Sept 2 Asian Games in Indonesia.

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18-07-2018, 10:19 AM	#32
laodie Senior Dragon Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,766	in this case, Mindef is right, they shouldn't bend the rules. He is not a true blue Singaporean anyway.

19-07-2018, 12:28 AM	#33
Robson Arofanatic Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 441	To me not even whether true blue singaporean. He is not even cap by Singapore. Despite our modest fifa ranking.

19-07-2018, 08:50 AM	#34
foxwagon Dragon Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,181	Singapore cannot win olympics medals in soccer not even sea games so mindef pragmatic

23-07-2018, 10:39 AM	#37
mictok Dragon Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 1,590	For Ben, follow his dream and hopefully he can play in EPL. For Mindef, pls be consistence in the policy to maintain the standard. For Minister like Josephine, pls visit UK when Ben score a few goals and claim him as Sporean, all happy ending ever after.

06-08-2018, 02:52 PM	#39
foxwagon Dragon Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,181	Minister of Defence will issue a parliamentary statement today in parliament

06-08-2018, 10:04 PM	#40
stargazer Dragon Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 877	Parliament: Ben Davis is playing for Fulham as an English national, not as a Singapore citizen, says Ng Eng Hen SINGAPORE - Teenage footballer Benjamin Davis is playing for English Premier League club Fulham FC as an English national, not as a Singapore citizen. That was one of three reasons why the Ministry of Defence (Mindef) rejected the application for National Service (NS) deferment made for the 17-year-old by his father, Harvey Davis, Defence Minister Ng Eng Hen said in his reply to questions in parliament on Monday (Aug 6). Benjamin signed a two-year professional contract with English Premier League club Fulham FC in June. He had left Singapore to join the club's academy in 2017. In his profile on Fulham's website, Benjamin is said to "hail from Singapore", but his nationality is listed as English. The second reason is that the senior Davis had "consistently refused to indicate" when his son would return to serve NS, if deferred. Davis said this was because there are "a lot of variables all dependent on his development and progression". Third, Mindef said Davis indicated that Benjamin would still sign the contract with Fulham if deferment was not granted - as he did - and would consider the option for his son to renounce his Singapore citizenship in order to pursue his career. "To grant deferment to Mr Ben Davis to pursue his personal development and professional career would be unfair to the many others who have served their NS dutifully as required, and not at a time of their choosing," said Dr Ng. "The application by Mr Harvey Davis for his son's deferment is to further his son's professional career first and to the longest extent possible. "He has been quite open about this. Singapore and her interests, including his son's NS obligations, are secondary consideration, if at all." Dr Ng added there had been "no indication, commitment or plans" as to how Benjamin signing for Fulham would help raise football standards in Singapore, if deferred. However, Davis had said his son would serve as an inspiration for the students registered to JSSL Singapore, a youth football academy he runs. "To preserve equity for all national servicemen, Mindef will only defer individuals very selectively if their deferment serves Singapore's interest first and foremost, never their own," said Dr Ng. This was the only basis to grant deferment to three sportsmen - swimmers Joseph Schooling and Quah Zheng Wen, and sailor Maximilian Soh - for them to train and compete at the Olympics. In all three cases, clear expectations were laid out when deferment was given, in discussion with the Ministry of Culture, Community and Youth (MCCY) on the standards required for their training. If they do not meet the standards agreed upon, deferment would be curtailed. Dr Ng also revealed that 13 NS defaulters were prosecuted after the new sentencing framework was established last year. He said: "Some wanted to complete their university degree first before NS. Others said they had to support their families. "In every judgment, the Courts dismiss these personal reasons, convicted and sentenced them to jail terms. "Harsh as it is, the Enlistment Act is blind to "personal convenience and considerations", no matter how talented the individual or exceptional his circumstances." Dr Ng also added that Mindef has provided support to national sportsmen, and revealed that 10 athletes have been given a short postponement of their enlistment to train for the Aug 18-Sept 2 Asian Games in Indonesia.

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