outdoor breeding pond suggestion

[Aro1]

Fibre glass on cement is the best. Epoxy paint will not last. Tiles need good water proofing if not cement can be toxic.

[chinway]

Originally Posted by Aro1

Fibre glass on cement is the best. Epoxy paint will not last. Tiles need good water proofing if not cement can be toxic.

hi Bro, u meant fibre coating onto the cement wall and base?

[Ralliart_Ray]

My humble inputs in blue

Originally Posted by chinway

hi,

GONG XI FA CHAI TO YOU AND YOUR LOVE ONE.

am thinking of building a cement pond mainly for rays on my backyard, think of an 8 feet wide by 20 feet long pond, questions that immediate pop to my mind now


1) should I leave it open air or cover up?
I will go with semi-cover up , at least sunlight can reach the pond

2) what is the challenge on outdoor pond that is harmful to ray?
I think should be rain water, PH water fluctuation

3) should I tiled up the pond or covered by white epoxy paint?
Tile will be a wise option for me

4) should I build a permenant partition or the net partition?
I wont do it. (I want to give the Rays big possible space to roam about)

5) how big big should the filter be?
As big as it can be!

etc etc lol

your input is very much appreciated!!!
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[Aro1]

Yes, fibre glass coating over cement wall and base. Very durable, waterproof and will not peel.

[conchabullosa]

Originally Posted by Aro1

Yes, fibre glass coating over cement wall and base. Very durable, waterproof and will not peel.

I have 3 ponds with fibre glass coating on walls and base which was done about 5-6 yrs ago.
Just in December 2013, the fibre glass coating separated off from 1 wall in one of the ponds. When we drained the pond, the separation also involved the base as well. I had to spent $$ to remove the fibreglass, treat the concrete and then apply epoxy paint. I did not want to put in fibreglass again, considering the cost, time and risk of moving fish around.
I am not sure if others have similar experience. The other 2 ponds look ok so far.

[nutx]

Originally Posted by conchabullosa

I have 3 ponds with fibre glass coating on walls and base which was done about 5-6 yrs ago.
Just in December 2013, the fibre glass coating separated off from 1 wall in one of the ponds. When we drained the pond, the separation also involved the base as well. I had to spent $$ to remove the fibreglass, treat the concrete and then apply epoxy paint. I did not want to put in fibreglass again, considering the cost, time and risk of moving fish around.
I am not sure if others have similar experience. The other 2 ponds look ok so far.

I think for Ray...I will recommend just have a smooth cement finishing.
My epoxy paint also peel off as I noticed the ray somehow good at it.

I've seen fiberglass surface and epoxy paint finishing doing well in koi pond for many years.....maybe it is ray that peel it!

[azon]

in BKK all the ponds are tiled.. those pond with bare cement finishing won't last long cos the cement will disintergate over time..

IMHO the best way is to tile up the pond but here is too costly..

[Aro1]

My fibre glass over cement pond has 3 coating, did not peel or crack at all.

[chinway]

Originally Posted by Aro1

My fibre glass over cement pond has 3 coating, did not peel or crack at all.

bro, what do u mean by 3 coating? can share a pic of your pond?
thks in advance.

[Aro1]

I chose black fibre glass. So the pond maker built the cement pond and coated the fibre glass after the cement had dried up. That was the first coat. After the first coat had dried up, he applied the second coat over the first, then the third coat.