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18-07-2011, 03:40 PM | #31 | |
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Thank you for your definition of a Pure BD. May i add my opinions. Regards Quote:
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18-07-2011, 04:18 PM | #32 |
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18-07-2011, 04:30 PM | #33 | |
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And it is white but just not that kind of total white but with some "shades" of grey? |
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18-07-2011, 05:46 PM | #34 | |
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Even the wild caught bds - how to say they are not pure? From my experiences, if you go for fully roundish spots and those points that Brother Uluaking have mentuoned - you will never be wronged. These roundish spots will turn into ecllips, donuts and if you are lucky, appearance of thousand island spots when they get matured. I have no experience about diamond or triangular shapes, so it is not fair for me to comment. What i have seen with my breeding stocks are that the spots are more and usually roundish and are very white comparing with BDleo pups. I have one particular female which I bought her as wild caught diamond, occasionally has pups with not so roundish spots. I sold her pups at much lower pricing. Having these points in mind, you have to make your own judgment and decide what you actually are looking for. Even very experience brothers here also have difficulty of confirming a 80% pure diamond. Love the ray from how she looks and not because of her name. Decide how much to pay from her look rather than her name. Uncle's English very chimp ne. Regards |
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18-07-2011, 06:13 PM | #35 | |
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What I mean was that, the spots are really triangular shaped and diamond-shaped with sharp corners, you know what I mean? This is what I saw when I visited a farm....the rims, 5th, 6th and 4th row all roundish or oval shaped but 3rd, 2nd and top row, have afew very odd-shaped spots, which made them "stands out" and that's why I noticed and have this question in my mind. But I can't say I cannot trust mother nature..... |
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18-07-2011, 06:38 PM | #36 | |
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18-07-2011, 07:04 PM | #37 |
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Uncle nice n detail write up but my bd got peanuts shape spots how? Spots breaking up?
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18-07-2011, 07:24 PM | #38 |
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Hi All,
IMO we should not go too deep and detail to define what is a "Black Diamond" because at this point of time it is still P13. I will read Bro Ularking sharing as his experience in what most ray keeper prefer while selecting a so call "Black Diamond" ray. I just feel that it is still not right to term those as characteristics of BD. I had seen many stunning specimen that are called BD and yet do not match what was mentioned above. In my heart they are show grade P13 Like what many members here had mentioned, see it, appreciate it, buy it. You think it is one with high potnetial? Go for it and enjoy the grooming plus anticipation. Bro Ularking, really need to thank you for sharing and bringing up this very interesting topic. This is the fun part about keeping blackies.... Cheers |
19-07-2011, 05:57 PM | #39 |
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1. Spots should be white even when young pups....
It is always encouraged to buy rays when they are conditioned. Conditioned means stable when stable down the pups will enhance its base color and spots. For PDR/Black Diamond, the spots MUST be white in color. 6 inches and above pups are deemed white spotted. Should not be any yellowish spot throught the whole body. I disagree on the above.. 1) If the pup have a slow growth rate or stunted than the spot are damn white even though it's only 5".. (you will know when you find that after eating a lot but still not growing fast) 2) 6" and above pups can still have yellow spots on the centre cos I have bred and grow more than 70pcs pure PDR pups till 8" before selling off. From my experiences if the grow rate is fast than the yellow spots on the centre wouldn't disappear that fast. It's take about 3 to 4 months for PURE PDR to be completely white in the centre. Just my 2 cents.. Last edited by azon; 19-07-2011 at 06:02 PM. |
19-07-2011, 08:29 PM | #40 |
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Hi all bro this pup is what I produce recently and both parent are of wild caught BD and this is not the first batch of pup they produce only this one came out like that so what's your say dear bros in AF,... Even I did not tot I can have such pup Oh btw this pup is with bro williamt sorry to use this pic only for info niar cheers |
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