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04-03-2016, 02:37 PM | #1 | |
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Singapore’s Penalty for Electric Cars
Interest article, tell us about the focus on going green effort by Govt.
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04-03-2016, 09:53 PM | #2 |
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With the current mindset of our government, we will take many years before we are ready to have electric cars. The government just does not want to commit to it. Maybe it will be a loss of revenue for them since the car does not use petrol. I can only say our government is quite wayang about going green.
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04-03-2016, 10:25 PM | #3 |
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Really a joke.....talk so much about going green and really is talk only....when come to action, not ready to test this and take....take so long to test....then give fine......maybe use green color to paint is greener and faster.....
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04-03-2016, 10:42 PM | #4 |
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Just like hybrid car which entail higher road tax than normal car...maybe use less petrol = lost revenue for the govt...
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04-03-2016, 11:30 PM | #5 |
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I feel that roy has proven another point. Dun rely on the authorities to do things for u. Best is u do it yourself as it takes time to do it. I feel the civil servants dun want to take responsibility on giving the green light for this super car in case something wrong in the event that he drove it. Anything happens the person will kanna questions why he approved this veh is fit for local use.
Another possibility is there is no department setup in the authorities to do these stuff and it is something new to them. Those earlier green electric veh are meant for trails and driven by "own ppl" only. However this is the real thing driving on the roads. Hybrids cars still ok as they still use petrol, but roy's car is fully electric and the charger may not be suitable for local use. Thats why need ema to approve it and they got no idea how to do it. Viacom ppl dunno how to do it as earlier models are tested by another test center. We still have a long way to go when come to electric vehicle as my friend told me he sat in a tesla car over in china when he use uber to call for his drive. |
05-03-2016, 10:44 AM | #6 |
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"This is apparently because VICOM measured the efficiency of the car at 444 Wh/km, whereas the US EPA officially rated it at 237.5Wh/km."
Petrol also.. manufacturer claimed consumption 6l/100km, but in real world, 11l/100km. |
05-03-2016, 11:02 AM | #7 | ||
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Wayang is an understatement. Quote:
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05-03-2016, 06:39 PM | #8 |
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Last time I lun, hoping for 5 years completion and a brighter future for us but after last erection, I realised there is no hope liao.
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05-03-2016, 06:46 PM | #9 |
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05-03-2016, 09:25 PM | #10 |
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LTA on Tesla: CO2 emissions for electric cars start at power grid
The LTA's clarification came after a consumer detailed the months-long journey of getting his Tesla Model S electric car on Singapore's roads. SINGAPORE: All used cars imported into Singapore will have to undergo exhaust emissions and fuel efficiency tests, and for electric cars, this means having the car's electricity generation process assessed for carbon dioxide (CO2) emissions, said the Land Transport Authority (LTA). The authority was responding to Channel NewsAsia's questions after a local consumer, Mr Joe Nguyen, was reported to have spent months trying to get a licence for his Tesla Model S car to be driven on local roads. Additionally, he was not given the Carbon Emissions-based Vehicle Scheme (CEVS) rebate of S$15,000 but was charged S$15,000 tax for having a non-fuel-efficient car instead. Mr Nguyen said in the Stuff report on Tuesday (Mar 1): "I don't get it, there are no emissions. Then they send out the results from VICOM, stating that the car was consuming 444 watt hour per kilometre (Wh/km). These are not specs that I have seen on Tesla's website, or anywhere else for that matter. And then underneath it, there's a conversion to CO2 emission." A LTA spokesperson explained that for Mr Nguyen's case, the car was tested under the United Nations Economic Commission for Europe (UNECE) R101 standards. The result was that the electric energy consumption of his imported used Tesla car was 444Wh/km, she said. "As for all electric vehicles, a grid emission factor of 0.5 g CO2/Wh was also applied to the electric energy consumption. This is to account for CO2 emissions during the electricity generation process, even if there are no tail-pipe emissions. The equivalent CO2 emission of Mr Nguyen’s car was 222g/km, which is in the CEVS surcharge band," the spokesperson added. Under the revised CEVS, Mr Nguyen's Tesla falls in the C3 band, which accounts for cars with 216 to 230 g/km, and carries with it a S$15,000 surcharge. She added that the Tesla is not the first fully electric car where grid emission factor was applied. A Peugeot Ion, for instance, was registered in July 2014 and received the maximum CEVS rebates, the spokesperson said. LTA did acknowledge the delays Mr Nguyen faced during the testing process at VICOM Emission Test Laboratory. He had told Stuff that he experienced a two-month "ordeal" getting his car assessed. "This is the first time a Tesla Model S has been tested for emissions," the spokesperson said. - CNA/kk |
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