Rays Discussion

[Jesto]

Originally Posted by T1KARMANN

Did you get any pups ? Yes every 3 months Smallest brood was 3 biggest was 7

and was it a motoro ? Yes

what size was the male ? Male was about 14" during that time but the female has outgrown the male since that time
its good to see so many people are now interested in breeding rays

can you share with us what size tank the rays were in how many males an females you had in the tank and what the water parameters were They are in a 9' x 8' pond
KH ? I do not test this
GH ? I do not test this
PH ? ranges from 6.5 to 8
Tenp ?

ranges from 24C to 30 C

Originally Posted by Jesto

ranges from 24C to 30 C

wow that is small for a female motoro to breed 12inch

your pond is big and im not sure if you would have had as much luck if the rays were in a smaller tank

did the male rip her to bits when the breeding took place ?

thanks for the info

thats why i started this thread to learn as much as possable breeding is not something i have done myself

but i think its every ray keepers dream to breed rays

whats a mortello ray??


thanks

Originally Posted by derickyam

bro, u mean two males can t put together? its a pair i am referring to....a male n a female

so width is more important than the length i know...but does it implies that the above tank size cannot keep a pair of ray for long?

its very subjective.
From what I have read male are usually the killers of other rays.
But tats whta i have read.
For mine also a pair (a male and a female)
for tank, AGAIN, I have seen 4 fter with only 1.5ft width keeping 4-5 rays (motoro) biggest female summore under going pregancy period. (I saw with my own eyes)
den I heard a bad news from a flend on his no so newly acquired motoro biggest amount the 4 (i think ) in his 6 x 2.5 x 2 tank passed away few days ago (deal curl)
so very difficult to have correct statistics i think

[Jesto]

wow that is small for a female motoro to breed 12inch The male is very horny
your pond is big and im not sure if you would have had as much luck if the rays were in a smaller tank My friend tried it in a 200 gal and he was not that successful
did the male rip her to bits when the breeding took place ? Lots of bite marks but nothing serious
thanks for the info

thats why i started this thread to learn as much as possable breeding is not something i have done myself The secret is lots of food and good water quality. Good luck with your P14s
but i think its every ray keepers dream to breed rays

My question

I am think of keeping rays in a pond width 5 ft, length about 7ft. Depth 3ft

Can?

The suction is right at the bottom, will this harn the rays which are bottom dwellers

Wanted to ask this questions for a long time

Thanks in advance

Firstly...bro T1KARMANN...good of you to speak up and say what many of us have felt for a long time. Like you, I've spoken my mind and got my points cut badly for that. Anyway, upps for you..

Back to rays, any bros here ever get stung by rays b4?

Originally Posted by coronation

My question

I am think of keeping rays in a pond width 5 ft, length about 7ft. Depth 3ft

Can?

The suction is right at the bottom, will this harn the rays which are bottom dwellers

Wanted to ask this questions for a long time

Thanks in advance

from the info that Jesto has just given us it looks like the size of tank/pond will help for sure when trying to breed rays if the tank/pond is BIG

the size pond you are thinking of setting up looks great to breed rays

if you think the bottom suction on the pond will be a problem why not try to put uplift pipes on the pond so the suction is then from the water surface

[Jesto]

Originally Posted by coronation

My question

I am think of keeping rays in a pond width 5 ft, length about 7ft. Depth 3ft

Can?

The suction is right at the bottom, will this harn the rays which are bottom dwellers

Wanted to ask this questions for a long time

Thanks in advance

Size is okay. Should be able to house more than a pair. My pond uses a powerhead(placed at the bottom) as main pump and the rays seem to have no problem with it.

Originally Posted by castor

Firstly...bro T1KARMANN...good of you to speak up and say what many of us have felt for a long time. Like you, I've spoken my mind and got my points cut badly for that. Anyway, upps for you..

Back to rays, any bros here ever get stung by rays b4?

this is the strange thing we all know rays can sting but not many people seam to know of anyone who has been stung buy a ray in the home tank or pond

has anyone ever seen a ray use its tail to try to sting anything ?

i have only ever seen one very mad male motoro that would attack anything that entered the water the sting attack of this ray was very very fast