Any recomemdation on Digital Cams

Originally posted by 2100
Really need to try out 300D. I'd rather you buy the excellent new Tamron 28-70 then pay $100 for the EF-S, but if budget is tight, then bo bian. $1800 with the lens at Alan. I have the C-5050 and played with stuff like F717..... If you don't mind the size and don't miss the live LCD view of p&s, you won't regret getting a SLR. Excellent AF performance (direct from the 10D, according to a D60 user it's significantly faster and more accurate) + manual focusing + good skills, you will get many more usable pictures. Forget about prosumer p&s if you can live with the "limitations" of a SLR, esp for fish photography. I wish i had not gotten the C5050, just waste more money. If you don't need a small cam and p&s features, don't waste money on G5, 717, V1 or 5050, total waste of time.

$1733 is good. But ask for the Tamron Di 28-70. Should be ard $650-700.

Thanks bro for the information, U mean Alan's photo is selling 300D with standard kit is $1800? Hmmm, U mean this camera has no LCD to view after I shoot??? I don't need a small camera but I need point and shoot features as I shoot wild animals in other countries, sometimes the animal takes u by surprise and you have no time to set your camera.
I agree it is a waste of money to purchase a prosumer or compact DC unless you just want a small camera. I choose to upgrade to a DSLR because I don't want to keep buying new cameras every year. But I think I will spent alot on lens.

Bro, is this lens good Tokina 28-80 3.5-5.6 ???? I shoot macros alot also, any lens to recomemd?? I go for value for money, often not the best but value for money, comparing D10 and 300D, 300D is more value for money.
Upon checking, I found out the price quote 2 me is without tax. total will be $1802

Alan photo ----------$1800 (Waiting for confirmation)
Cathay----------------$1750 (Without lens include 4% GST)
Mscolor----------------$$1802(with lens include 4% GST)(Free canon camera bag and LCD protector)

Hope this is helpful to everybody

given a choice.
go for a sony if u can.

why i recommend sony?
cos i have 2 nikons. 1 is coolpix 885 (my most durable and lasting one) and 1 is coolpix 2500 adjustable lenses (good for sneak peek shots.) BUT!!!! the main flaw that comes bad with MOST BRANDS of digital cameras are the flash and it's poor light sensitivity.

Most digital cameras will activate flash at the slightest condition not as bright as the sun. Furthurmore, flash timing is always not accurate with lens exposure, hence poor nightshots. Even when you're in a very brightly lit room with full florescent lighting that is so white, FLASH will still be activated and hence poor picture quality comes in again. It takes personal tweaking and adjustment to ensure that the camera knows wat you want and where u are.

BUT...when i picked up a sony, ANY SONY in fact...their light sensitivity is good, their flash is powerful and the microcomputer inside the camera knows exactly what you want and does wat you want. It totally does what most digital cameras cannot do.

Just my personal experience
cheers.

Go for a sony...IF u have the money.....doesn't it rhyme?

Originally posted by blue_b
given a choice.
go for a sony if u can.

why i recommend sony?
cos i have 2 nikons. 1 is coolpix 885 (my most durable and lasting one) and 1 is coolpix 2500 adjustable lenses (good for sneak peek shots.) BUT!!!! the main flaw that comes bad with MOST BRANDS of digital cameras are the flash and it's poor light sensitivity.

Most digital cameras will activate flash at the slightest condition not as bright as the sun. Furthurmore, flash timing is always not accurate with lens exposure, hence poor nightshots. Even when you're in a very brightly lit room with full florescent lighting that is so white, FLASH will still be activated and hence poor picture quality comes in again. It takes personal tweaking and adjustment to ensure that the camera knows wat you want and where u are.

BUT...when i picked up a sony, ANY SONY in fact...their light sensitivity is good, their flash is powerful and the microcomputer inside the camera knows exactly what you want and does wat you want. It totally does what most digital cameras cannot do.

Just my personal experience
cheers.

Go for a sony...IF u have the money.....doesn't it rhyme?

Nikon is like that la, not too good in focusing in dim light. Canon does a better job. DC is out already, now is the era for DSLR. See my above price. 6.25mp cmos = 11mp CCD.

Any bros knows how much memory CF card 300D needs? For at least 200 pictures in normal setting.

aardwolf, you can read all the stuff from here. Better to do a detail read and learn what is a SLR about before plonking down the moolas. Also do read about a typical digital workflow.

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos300d/

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/EDR/EDRA.HTM

http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003_reviews/300d.html

http://www.outbackphoto.com/reviews/...0D_review.html


Some good websites with emphasis on digital.
http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/index.asp

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/

http://www.photo.net/

Heh heh....DSLR is a digital cam what. Normal DC will not be out lar..... but the 300D starts a small revolution, including to the rest of the DSLRs presently as well as in the future. Nikon Canada and some other countries have already changed their pricing very recently.

Originally posted by 2100
aardwolf, you can read all the stuff from here. Better to do a detail read and learn what is a SLR about before plonking down the moolas. Also do read about a typical digital workflow.

http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/canoneos300d/

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/EDR/EDRA.HTM

http://www.steves-digicams.com/2003_reviews/300d.html

http://www.outbackphoto.com/reviews/...0D_review.html


Some good websites with emphasis on digital.
http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/index.asp

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/

http://www.photo.net/

Heh heh....DSLR is a digital cam what. Normal DC will not be out lar..... but the 300D starts a small revolution, including to the rest of the DSLRs presently as well as in the future. Nikon Canada and some other countries have already changed their pricing very recently.

I read almost everything I could already,thanks. DSLR is a DC and a SLR but a DC can never be a SLR. Nikon has the AF ficusing problem no matter how they change their pricing and it will not be a pricing problem I believe. I sold my 5000 in the first week of using it at a great lost.


PS:That's why I ask you some questions in my post, the ones I read are different from what u wrote.

Originally posted by aardwolf
Thanks bro for the information, U mean Alan's photo is selling 300D with standard kit is $1800? Hmmm, U mean this camera has no LCD to view after I shoot??? I don't need a small camera but I need point and shoot features as I shoot wild animals in other countries, sometimes the animal takes u by surprise and you have no time to set your camera.
I agree it is a waste of money to purchase a prosumer or compact DC unless you just want a small camera. I choose to upgrade to a DSLR because I don't want to keep buying new cameras every year. But I think I will spent alot on lens.

It has preview after shooting, but no LIVE LCD preview.

It will be good for wildlife, with an appropriate lens (be prepared to look at stuff at least 300mm). The speed will be very significantly faster than any prosumer DC out there.

Since you already have a consumer DC, this would be the next logical step right? The 300D is such a camera, good and cheap for beginners, the quality is there so you can spend more on the lens as you move on.

Tokina 28-80, hmmm....I am not sure about the normal one with 3.5-5.6, but the AT-X one with constant f2.8 is ok. I do not think the normal one is much of an upgrade than the EF-S 18-55, you will be better off starting with the Canon EF-S.

http://www.tawbaware.com/sigma_tokina_test1.htm


Next time get the Tamron 28-75 2.8 lor. This little bugger is even better than the Canon 24-70L 2.8 in some cases from what i see on side-by-side comparison samples.

http://dicagrapher.com.ne.kr/imsi_lens/test.htm

http://www.tamron.com/di.htm

Originally posted by aardwolf
Nikon has the AF ficusing problem no matter how they change their pricing and it will not be a pricing problem I believe.

I know from some other photography forums that the 5700 has some focusing problems regarding low-light conditions coz it does not have AF illumination assist, is that what you are talking about?

Originally posted by 2100
It has preview after shooting, but no LIVE LCD preview.

It will be good for wildlife, with an appropriate lens (be prepared to look at stuff at least 300mm). The speed will be very significantly faster than any prosumer DC out there.

Since you already have a consumer DC, this would be the next logical step right? The 300D is such a camera, good and cheap for beginners, the quality is there so you can spend more on the lens as you move on.

Tokina 28-80, hmmm....I am not sure about the normal one with 3.5-5.6, but the AT-X one with constant f2.8 is ok. I do not think the normal one is much of an upgrade than the EF-S 18-55, you will be better off starting with the Canon EF-S.

http://www.tawbaware.com/sigma_tokina_test1.htm


Next time get the Tamron 28-75 2.8 lor. This little bugger is even better than the Canon 24-70L 2.8 in some cases from what i see on side-by-side comparison samples.

http://dicagrapher.com.ne.kr/imsi_lens/test.htm

http://www.tamron.com/di.htm

Thanks for the advise. I think I'll get the standard kit and start from there. Appreciate your help. When I get mine, i will definately post the pics.
Thanks and wish me all the luck I need so I won't need to change camera again.