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Old 24-08-2006, 01:34 AM   #41
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You can make tyres out of natural or synthetic rubber.

But the humble but nonetheless important condom can only be manufactured by natural rubber.
But there are people who think plastic one works better.
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Old 24-08-2006, 01:50 AM   #42
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If your answer is Yes, then why others can produce equivalent nice goldfish.
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Erh mind if you give examples and how many?
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Old 24-08-2006, 08:30 AM   #43
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No one can doubt that u have won and this is a proud moment for us hobblyst. But it can also be said of green water. I remembered RG posted the pictures of the Aquarama 05 and the Vermillion club swept all three prizes for pearl scale. Then good things can also be said about GW too.
So this means we are back to the list of Pros and Cons of the two keeping methods and the rest of us here will decide which makes the best sense?
With all due respect and I am also not boasting but trying to make a point here. This year's MFGC, I won 3 of the 6 oranda prizes and first in the pearlscale. All the fishes are raised without GW. Two of my orandas and one black ranchu did not win. Due to my limited space and time, I cannot send in more fish. Not counting my TVRs, that's is all I have to enter. What happened to all the GW raised orandas and pearlscales? Are they not supposed to be better? The winner of the ryukin is also not GW raised and nearly all the winning black ranchus are not GW raised.
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Old 24-08-2006, 08:31 AM   #44
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But there are people who think plastic one works better.
At least, all my winning fish are raised in my one and only plastic tub.
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Old 24-08-2006, 09:31 AM   #45
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Erh mind if you give examples and how many?
Take the recent MFGC. Between me and another "kaki" that also do not use GW, we have together won 10 prizes. Not forgetting that both of us have less than 3 years experience in keeping goldfish.

Here are what we have won
1. Best of Junior
2. 1st Oranda Class A
3. 1st Ryukin Class A
4. 1st Pearlscale A
5. 2nd Black Ranchu A
6. 2nd Black Ranchu B
7. 2nd Oranda B
8. 3rd Oranda B
9. 3rd Black Ranchu A
10.3rd Black Ranchu B

I also know of the 1st in Open A, 1st in Black A and 1st in Black B does not use GW. I wonder what happened to all the Blackies that are raised in GW?

The Grand Champion and 1st in Oranda B from Indonesia also do not use GW.

What more do you want me to say?

BTW bro/master Sotong. Care to share your credentials or show us some of your winning fish or prized collection raised with GW. What are you trying to proof here?

There is an alternative GW and probably in my view a much better one.

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Old 24-08-2006, 10:38 AM   #46
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Take the recent MFGC. Between me and another "kaki" that also do not use GW, we have together won 10 prizes. Not forgetting that both of us have less than 3 years experience in keeping goldfish.

Here are what we have won
1. Best of Junior
2. 1st Oranda Class A
3. 1st Ryukin Class A
4. 1st Pearlscale A
5. 2nd Black Ranchu A
6. 2nd Black Ranchu B
7. 2nd Oranda B
8. 3rd Oranda B
9. 3rd Black Ranchu A
10.3rd Black Ranchu B

I also know of the 1st in Open A, 1st in Black A and 1st in Black B does not use GW. I wonder what happened to all the Blackies that are raised in GW?

The Grand Champion and 1st in Oranda B from Indonesia also do not use GW.

What more do you want me to say?

BTW bro/master Sotong. Care to share your credentials or show us some of your winning fish or prized collection raised with GW. What are you trying to proof here?

There is an alternative GW and probably in my view a much better one.
If buying fish to win and is consider credential then I rather not.
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Old 24-08-2006, 10:44 AM   #47
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If buying fish to win and is consider credential then I rather not.
Maybe you can name the fish that were bought specifically for the competition. My 'Kaki" has something like 20 tanks in his work place and God knows how many in his home. Agree with you that my $2/- tiku is also bought in December 2005. Are you trying to say that the members of other goldfish clubs breed their own fish for the competition? I wonder which GW practioner participating in the MFGC do not buy their fish for the competition?

Maybe you can show us some of your self-bred prized collection.

I think the issues here is for you to highlight why GW will produce better fish than what I am using. I have invited many time for you guys to conduct an experiment together with me. Why not Bro Sotong you come forward and conduct the experiment with me.

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Old 24-08-2006, 10:51 AM   #48
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Maybe you can name the fish that were bought specifically for the competition. My 'Kaki" has something like 20 tanks in his work place and God knows how many in his home. Agree with you that my $2/- tiku is also bought in December 2005. Are you trying to say that the members of other goldfish clubs breed their own fish for the competition?

Maybe you can show us some of your self-bred prized collection.
Oh, you have forgotten having confessed openly of the purchases.
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Old 24-08-2006, 10:55 AM   #49
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Oh, you have forgotten having confessed openly of the purchases.
Kindly show me some self-bred winners.
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Old 24-08-2006, 11:10 AM   #50
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If buying fish to win and is consider credential then I rather not.
Your statement is misleading.

The key test is whether you bought the fish just before the competition and played no part in grooming the fish. Nice fish at the point of purchase, can be ruined quite quickly in the hands of a novice.
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