Debate between Tan CJ & Png EH - customs issue - Page 2

calvin ong · 20-07-2016, 08:13 PM

No point debating with someone from the special olympics
Please keep your participation within the special olympics

Please do not quote me and reply to any of my post in future

lenghan · 21-07-2016, 01:06 PM

"aimed at stirring hate and anger, not only to be directed at me, which I can understand politically, but also at my residents and volunteers

Personally feel that this statement was unnecessary by the Minister. By doing so, isn't it true that he is "trying" to "influence" to think that way?

LauLanChu · 21-07-2016, 01:25 PM

Agree, the minister over-reacted to a trivial matters. Should reply more professionally. We all know no intention of stirring hatred at all, just brought up the unfairness by the opp party.

globalcookie · 21-07-2016, 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stargazer

Mr Tan added: "Mr Png seems to accept that it's reasonable that our office holders get facilitated, if so, then surely the others in that bus need to be cleared as well so that the bus can leave and not add to the vehicular queues there."

But every other buses are also in e vehicular queues, be there any ministers or not. It's nothing unusual, and that's just so convenient excuse to give, but I don't see that as a problem. Both check points are faced with high bus volumes on weekends, 1 bus lesser doesn't make a difference.

AlvinLeong · 21-07-2016, 10:17 PM

Minister Tan took the bus back to CC/RC together with his residents after clearance?

Or his car waiting for him after clearance?

satan_gal · 22-07-2016, 12:33 PM

I think I read somewhere.. Minister Tan took his own car in.
And chose to take the bus out, which gave rise to the issue....

U see... the other 2 gentlemen were wif the bus throughout. Not happen to be in Malaysia and decide to take the bus out. And when they did take the bus out, the joined the public Q.

Basically it's like a case of what seems to be Elitism at work.... GRL (1 bus load) who are fit and healthy breezing through while the rest (inc old and weak) who need to Q.

Frankly, it's damn stupid the customs did wad they did. They would have scored brownie points if they had kept the counter open and
gave priority to the senior citizens and/or those with very young kids and/or those who have difficulty walkin etc.
The customs have been known to do that, subject to crowd and availability of custom officers
(which in this case, since they CAN and DID open an extra counter for like 30 pax, they COULD have done the same for those in need).

globalcookie · 22-07-2016, 12:49 PM

Custom did the 'right thing' by not asking those others to go thru the express lane, thus this issue came to light
(not that we don't know such 'VIP' exist for the longest time, and it's not just for ministers but... oh well)

millenium · 22-07-2016, 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by streetsmart73

sup sup sui

Small matter.

Please look into bigger issue hor

The issue of opposition town council surface again liao.

millenium · 22-07-2016, 01:15 PM

Just curious. VIP and normal citizen durians got different grade bo?

loveikan · 22-07-2016, 02:22 PM

Guess someone is fishing.....

CALVIN CHENG WARNS NUS PROF THAT HE CAN GET FIRED FOR POLITICAL COMMENTS

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21-07-2016, 01:06 PM	#12
lenghan Arofanatic Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 71	*"aimed at stirring hate and anger, not only to be directed at me, which I can understand politically, but also at my residents and volunteers* Personally feel that this statement was unnecessary by the Minister. By doing so, isn't it true that he is "trying" to "influence" to think that way?

21-07-2016, 01:25 PM	#13
LauLanChu Dragon Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,561	Agree, the minister over-reacted to a trivial matters. Should reply more professionally. We all know no intention of stirring hatred at all, just brought up the unfairness by the opp party.

21-07-2016, 10:17 PM	#15
AlvinLeong Dragon Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 1,759	Minister Tan took the bus back to CC/RC together with his residents after clearance? Or his car waiting for him after clearance?

22-07-2016, 12:33 PM	#16
satan_gal Dragon Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,714	I think I read somewhere.. Minister Tan took his own car in. And chose to take the bus out, which gave rise to the issue.... U see... the other 2 gentlemen were wif the bus throughout. Not happen to be in Malaysia and decide to take the bus out. And when they did take the bus out, the joined the public Q. Basically it's like a case of what seems to be Elitism at work.... GRL (1 bus load) who are fit and healthy breezing through while the rest (inc old and weak) who need to Q. Frankly, it's damn stupid the customs did wad they did. They would have scored brownie points if they had kept the counter open and gave priority to the senior citizens and/or those with very young kids and/or those who have difficulty walkin etc. The customs have been known to do that, subject to crowd and availability of custom officers (which in this case, since they CAN and DID open an extra counter for like 30 pax, they COULD have done the same for those in need).

22-07-2016, 12:49 PM	#17
globalcookie Dragon Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,446	Custom did the 'right thing' by not asking those others to go thru the express lane, thus this issue came to light (not that we don't know such 'VIP' exist for the longest time, and it's not just for ministers but... oh well)

22-07-2016, 01:15 PM	#19
millenium Senior Dragon Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 3,495	Just curious. VIP and normal citizen durians got different grade bo?

22-07-2016, 02:22 PM	#20
loveikan Arofanatic Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 384	Guess someone is fishing..... CALVIN CHENG WARNS NUS PROF THAT HE CAN GET FIRED FOR POLITICAL COMMENTS http://www.allsingaporestuff.com/art...tical-comments

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