WP (AHPETC) VS NEA (And Hawkers of Bedok) - Page 7

Aris · 09-06-2013, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by globalcookie

From what u gathered from e ground (4 hawkers u spoke with), seems quite much e media (and whoelse) were politicizing and trying to run down and dissect WP over a very small matter that they themselves blew out of propotion and cast WP into extreme bad lights?

Not according to the MSM who stated the hawkers refuted Sylvia Lim's claim that it was politically motivated.

http://www.asiaone.com/News/Latest%2...09-428566.html

Meanwhile...... in Lavender Street hawker centre 2 children hospitalised when 2 ceiling boards fell on them while they were eating. Talk about retribution, ho ho ho.

http://news.asiaone.com/News/Latest%...09-428611.html

richardg · 09-06-2013, 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Aris

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Meanwhile...... in Lavender Street hawker centre 2 children hospitalised when 2 ceiling boards fell on them while they were eating. Talk about retribution, ho ho ho.
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poor kids
wish them speed and full recovery...

tian ya ren · 09-06-2013, 10:04 PM

PAP STOP WASTING TIME SABOH WP

PAP PLEASE PUT MORE EFFORT TO THINK HOW TO TAKE CARE OF SINGAPOREAN AND DONT ALWAYS THINK HOW TO EARN SINGAPOREAN $$$$ AND TRY TO SABOH OPPOSITION PARTY

ymmij · 09-06-2013, 10:14 PM

NEA is Contradicting Itself

I welcome the release of the documents by National Environment Agency (“NEA”) so that the public can make their own judgment.

In response, we are also releasing, at Annex A, the email thread from NEA to Aljunied-Hougang-Punggol East Town Council (“AHPETC”) stating that “the Hawkers Association will make the necessary arrangements with their contractors on the scaffold erection / dismantling during the spring cleaning period from 4 – 8 March 2013”.

Regrettably, NEA has not clarified whether the hawkers at Blk 511 Bedok North Street 3 (“Blk 511 Market”) and Blk 538 Bedok North Street 3 (“Blk 538 Market”) were asked by AHPETC to pay any additional charges for any cleaning. All NEA has is a quotation from the cleaning contractor ATL Maintenance Pte Ltd (“ATL”) addressed to the Market Association of Blk 538.

NEA should know that ATL is an independent commercial company free to provide quotations to any party that requests it. It was the Market Association of Blk 538 Market that requested the quotation, as confirmed by ATL’s media release on 6 June 2013. Attributing the quotation to AHPETC is misleading and politically motivated to tarnish the reputation of AHPETC.

I also urge NEA not to confuse the public on the events relating to Blk 538 and Blk 511, which are two separate matters.

The Blk 538 market incident was caused by NEA’s email of 7 Feb 2013. NEA had confirmed that the hawkers’ association would be providing the scaffolding which was not done for reasons unknown to us. In addition, any decision for market closure came from the hawkers’ association and not from the town council, as it was not needed by us.

The appeal letter by MP Faisal released by NEA pertained to Blk 511 Market, which is scheduled for cleaning at the end of June 2013 by the Market Association. Contrary to NEA’s portrayal, the letter evidently shows MP Faisal’s awareness that it was not the policy of AHPETC not to clean the high areas of the market during annual cleaning, nor to collect any additional charges from the hawkers; otherwise, MP Faisal would not have written to AHPETC to look into Mr Chan Kheng Heng’s claim.

NEA’s assertion in its statement flies in the face of logic. NEA is contradicting itself.

SYLVIA LIM
CHAIRMAN
ALJUNIED-HOUGANG-PUNGGOL EAST TOWN COUNCIL

9 June 2013

Annex A – Email Correspondence between NEA and AHPETC

http://www.ahpetc.sg/wp-content/uplo...and-AHPETC.pdf
http://www.ahpetc.sg/media-release-9-june-2013/

tian ya ren · 09-06-2013, 10:33 PM

bro ymmij thanks for sharing .

menthol28 · 10-06-2013, 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Aris

Meanwhile...... in Lavender Street hawker centre 2 children hospitalised when 2 ceiling boards fell on them while they were eating. Talk about retribution, ho ho ho.

http://news.asiaone.com/News/Latest%...09-428611.html

Not sure whether you have read the link you posted, it seems the report was that at a FOOD COURT below the hotel near lavender MRT. Self run Privatised food court what has it got to do with town council or gov implied by u? And what retribution are you talking abt? The 2 kids deserved to be injured? Senseless
Hokkien got a saying, 是也干，不是也干，越干越爽是吗？

globalcookie · 10-06-2013, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aris

Not according to the MSM who stated the hawkers refuted Sylvia Lim's claim that it was politically motivated.

http://www.asiaone.com/News/Latest%2...09-428566.html

Meanwhile...... in Lavender Street hawker centre 2 children hospitalised when 2 ceiling boards fell on them while they were eating. Talk about retribution, ho ho ho.

Asiaone news, who own ah? I take SPH's news where politics are concern, with a MOUNTAIN of salt.

And no matter where and which TC/gov in charge of the SMC/GRC, having any innocent people injured, how do you link it to retribution? The retribution on the childrens? They or their parents done evil to receive retribution? I don't see why anyone who is injured, shd be linked as retribution.

globalcookie · 10-06-2013, 10:08 AM

Minister for the Environment and Water Resources Dr Vivian Balakrishnan said it is "arrogant and wrong" of town council chairman Ms Sylvia Lim to make a political attack on National Environment Agency (NEA) officers for simply doing their job.

SINGAPORE: Minister for the Environment and Water Resources Dr Vivian Balakrishnan said it is "arrogant and wrong" of town council chairman Ms Sylvia Lim to make a political attack on National Environment Agency (NEA) officers for simply doing their job.

In a media statement released Sunday evening, Dr Balakrishnan said this is a "completely unnecessary distraction caused by the Aljunied-Hougang-Punggol East Town Council (AHPETC) and its managing agent FMSS."

All town councils, he said, have always done routine spring-cleaning of hawker centres and there is no excuse for the town council (AHPETC) to delay the current cleaning programme as the safety of the public must remain the paramount concern.

Dr Balakrishnan said hawkers are honest, hardworking people just trying to make a living and there is no reason to charge hawkers more for cleaning the ceiling.

He said there is no reason to disrupt their business.

The hawkers, he noted, have been consistent and truthful throughout this entire episode, and “it's obvious they are speaking the truth”.

NEA civil servants, he added, are duty-bound to protect public hygiene and ensure hawkers are treated fairly.

He asked the town council to cooperate with NEA, and consult closely with the hawkers and fulfill its obligations.

- CNA/xq

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ARROGANT? I guess everyone knows WHO is the arrogant one here (3 meals of peanut maybe). Now he is trying to stir the hawker's emotions huh?? Anyway, hawkers are hardworking, but I don't think much about honesty.

So, who else is going to throw in their lot? Where is KHAW BOON WAN who always has something to say where WP is concern?

Aris · 10-06-2013, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by menthol28

Not sure whether you have read the link you posted, it seems the report was that at a FOOD COURT below the hotel near lavender MRT. Self run Privatised food court what has it got to do with town council or gov implied by u? And what retribution are you talking abt? The 2 kids deserved to be injured? Senseless
Hokkien got a saying, 是也干，不是也干，越干越爽是吗？

Quote:

Originally Posted by globalcookie

Asiaone news, who own ah? I take SPH's news where politics are concern, with a MOUNTAIN of salt.

And no matter where and which TC/gov in charge of the SMC/GRC, having any innocent people injured, how do you link it to retribution? The retribution on the childrens? They or their parents done evil to receive retribution? I don't see why anyone who is injured, shd be linked as retribution.

My apologies for being too quick and misreading the article. Of course nothing to do with the children and obviously I am not joyous that the kids were injured.
And GC your understanding of me saying retribution is wayyyy off. Get off your high horse.

kpchua · 10-06-2013, 10:31 AM

Shouldn't the NEA be focusing on the dengue issue instead of the 2 hawkers centres?

09-06-2013, 10:04 PM	#63
tian ya ren Dragon Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,631	PAP STOP WASTING TIME SABOH WP PAP PLEASE PUT MORE EFFORT TO THINK HOW TO TAKE CARE OF SINGAPOREAN AND DONT ALWAYS THINK HOW TO EARN SINGAPOREAN $$$$ AND TRY TO SABOH OPPOSITION PARTY

09-06-2013, 10:14 PM	#64
ymmij Senior Dragon Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 3,332	NEA is Contradicting Itself I welcome the release of the documents by National Environment Agency (“NEA”) so that the public can make their own judgment. In response, we are also releasing, at Annex A, the email thread from NEA to Aljunied-Hougang-Punggol East Town Council (“AHPETC”) stating that “the Hawkers Association will make the necessary arrangements with their contractors on the scaffold erection / dismantling during the spring cleaning period from 4 – 8 March 2013”. Regrettably, NEA has not clarified whether the hawkers at Blk 511 Bedok North Street 3 (“Blk 511 Market”) and Blk 538 Bedok North Street 3 (“Blk 538 Market”) were asked by AHPETC to pay any additional charges for any cleaning. All NEA has is a quotation from the cleaning contractor ATL Maintenance Pte Ltd (“ATL”) addressed to the Market Association of Blk 538. NEA should know that ATL is an independent commercial company free to provide quotations to any party that requests it. It was the Market Association of Blk 538 Market that requested the quotation, as confirmed by ATL’s media release on 6 June 2013. Attributing the quotation to AHPETC is misleading and politically motivated to tarnish the reputation of AHPETC. I also urge NEA not to confuse the public on the events relating to Blk 538 and Blk 511, which are two separate matters. The Blk 538 market incident was caused by NEA’s email of 7 Feb 2013. NEA had confirmed that the hawkers’ association would be providing the scaffolding which was not done for reasons unknown to us. In addition, any decision for market closure came from the hawkers’ association and not from the town council, as it was not needed by us. The appeal letter by MP Faisal released by NEA pertained to Blk 511 Market, which is scheduled for cleaning at the end of June 2013 by the Market Association. Contrary to NEA’s portrayal, the letter evidently shows MP Faisal’s awareness that it was not the policy of AHPETC not to clean the high areas of the market during annual cleaning, nor to collect any additional charges from the hawkers; otherwise, MP Faisal would not have written to AHPETC to look into Mr Chan Kheng Heng’s claim. NEA’s assertion in its statement flies in the face of logic. NEA is contradicting itself. SYLVIA LIM CHAIRMAN ALJUNIED-HOUGANG-PUNGGOL EAST TOWN COUNCIL 9 June 2013 Annex A – Email Correspondence between NEA and AHPETC http://www.ahpetc.sg/wp-content/uplo...and-AHPETC.pdf http://www.ahpetc.sg/media-release-9-june-2013/

09-06-2013, 10:33 PM	#65
tian ya ren Dragon Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 2,631	bro ymmij thanks for sharing .

10-06-2013, 10:08 AM	#68
globalcookie Dragon Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 1,446	Minister for the Environment and Water Resources Dr Vivian Balakrishnan said it is "arrogant and wrong" of town council chairman Ms Sylvia Lim to make a political attack on National Environment Agency (NEA) officers for simply doing their job. SINGAPORE: Minister for the Environment and Water Resources Dr Vivian Balakrishnan said it is "arrogant and wrong" of town council chairman Ms Sylvia Lim to make a political attack on National Environment Agency (NEA) officers for simply doing their job. In a media statement released Sunday evening, Dr Balakrishnan said this is a "completely unnecessary distraction caused by the Aljunied-Hougang-Punggol East Town Council (AHPETC) and its managing agent FMSS." All town councils, he said, have always done routine spring-cleaning of hawker centres and there is no excuse for the town council (AHPETC) to delay the current cleaning programme as the safety of the public must remain the paramount concern. Dr Balakrishnan said hawkers are honest, hardworking people just trying to make a living and there is no reason to charge hawkers more for cleaning the ceiling. He said there is no reason to disrupt their business. The hawkers, he noted, have been consistent and truthful throughout this entire episode, and “it's obvious they are speaking the truth”. NEA civil servants, he added, are duty-bound to protect public hygiene and ensure hawkers are treated fairly. He asked the town council to cooperate with NEA, and consult closely with the hawkers and fulfill its obligations. - CNA/xq ---------------------------- ARROGANT? I guess everyone knows WHO is the arrogant one here (3 meals of peanut maybe). Now he is trying to stir the hawker's emotions huh?? Anyway, hawkers are hardworking, but I don't think much about honesty. So, who else is going to throw in their lot? Where is KHAW BOON WAN who always has something to say where WP is concern?

10-06-2013, 10:31 AM	#70
kpchua Arofanatic Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 234	Shouldn't the NEA be focusing on the dengue issue instead of the 2 hawkers centres?

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