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Old 17-07-2008, 10:59 PM   #1
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Default very sad day for a Toman fan today ..

firstly im new to this wonderful Forum and excited to be part of it .

okay so i've been an avid Fisherman for quite some time already
and has always been fascinated by the Toman / Channa Micropletis .

so a week back i decided to get a small one for rearing , like a foot long .
i was free today and decided to go KhaiSeng Fish farm ( Neo Tiew )
to source for one .
reached there in the afternoon , as expected majority of them are giants .
i was itching to get one but i know my tank couldn't keep a big daddy .

and there it was !
a small Toman amongst the giant , it looked pretty good and active too .
not that brightly colored yet as it was still small ,
around 12 to 14 inches long . i tried netting it myself ,
finally got it after a long time pushing away those giants .

told the uncle i wanted to keep it , so he put it in the big plastic ,
filled water till SLIGHTLY fully covered the fish , and pump some air inside .

i was very happy and took a cab home from Kranji MRT ,
total journey probably took an hour .

i didnt really take note of the fish while traveling back ,
when i reached home , i took the bag out and laid it on the floor ,
not moving much but i thought it was normal , stress and stuff .

so i started filling up my tank to the appropriate level ,
but SUDDNELY , i took a glance at my Toman ,
damn it was tilting sideways !

i started to panic and immediately shake the bag a bit ,
but it was still slanting .
i then opened the bag and slide the fish inside my tank .
god damn it was flipping the otherway , overturned .
not a single movement and looked almost dead .
i tried carrying it up and let it breath air but it wasnt opening its mouth .
i prayed for the worst , the fish is dead , but i kept hoping for a miracle .
after an hour i finally accepted the fact that its already dead .

i then cooked it , not to waste it anyways .

i was really very sad and puzzled as to why it happened .
it was totally fine when it reached home , such a sudden change .
they are such hardy fishes for gods sake , i was really heartbroke .
had i released the fish into the tank earlier , it might have already been swimming happily right now , so near yet so far .

perhaps the water too little ?
not enough atmosphere air ?
too stress and exhausted ?

i dont know what to do now , if i was to try buying another Toman ,
i already got phobia that the same thing might happen again .
thus im now considering getting some beautiful Rainbow ..

any inputs ??
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Old 17-07-2008, 11:47 PM   #2
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indeed, quite sad that u ate your pet-to-be

probably died due to the long trip and not acclimatising the fish properly into its new home. did u add water conditioner into the tank water?
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Old 17-07-2008, 11:58 PM   #3
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yea ,
but i couldn't waste it and just throw it away like that ..

before i filled the tank to appropriate level ,
i did aged about half tank full of water the day before .
also added some Genesis .

but thats not the point ,
the fish flipped while it was INSIDE the bag ..
when i panic and released it into the tank it was already almost dead .

maybe it was the long trip , not enough oxygen , too many factors .
also imo very likely it was cause by exhaustion as i was chasing it
and having a hard time lading this single fish i wanted into the net .
also with the fish uncle not handling the fish with care while packing i guessed .
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Old 18-07-2008, 12:14 AM   #4
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seems like your a pro asking beginner questions and giving pro answers
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Old 18-07-2008, 12:32 AM   #5
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hahaha im sorry .

i dont know , just frustrated and i need more inputs ..
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Old 18-07-2008, 01:24 AM   #6
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Imho there is the probability that the fish was stressed too much while being netted and then it's heart gave way.I say this because i have tried helping my son catch lonkang fish and i was ai,ing for 1 particular fish...where it go i chased...then it suddenly stopped moving it had died think could be a similar case.
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Old 18-07-2008, 06:59 AM   #7
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it was stressed IMO.
get the small feeder ones.
they are the most fun to keep.
worse than a group of piranhas.
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Old 18-07-2008, 11:33 AM   #8
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it was stressed IMO.
get the small feeder ones.
they are the most fun to keep.
worse than a group of piranhas.
yea what i was thinking too .
unlikely due to the lack of oxygen or water
cause they are some tough fighters and can live in conditions
way worse haha .

i had thought of keeping the small ones ,
burt im afraid they'll die before they even have the chance to reach adulthood .

anyways i havent been seeing Toman Feeders anywhere .
anyone saw and knows where to get them ?
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Old 18-07-2008, 01:42 PM   #9
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there's a petshop at tamp st 21 which has them at times. otherwise you can order online from mass delivery of feeders at the commercial trade section i think. (:
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Old 18-07-2008, 02:15 PM   #10
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yea what i was thinking too .
unlikely due to the lack of oxygen or water
cause they are some tough fighters and can live in conditions
way worse haha .

i had thought of keeping the small ones ,
burt im afraid they'll die before they even have the chance to reach adulthood .

anyways i havent been seeing Toman Feeders anywhere .
anyone saw and knows where to get them ?
c328 has them.
i bought 25 of them.
17 survived.
lost 3 to disease and 5 to their siblings.
they are very hardy.
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