Arofanatics Fish Talk Forums  

Go Back   Arofanatics Fish Talk Forums > The Guildhouse > Chatterbox > Singapore Politics

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 22-05-2014, 12:31 AM   #61
jwhtan
Barney

 
jwhtan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Posts: 9,118
Default

I think there's no absolute capitalism and neither is there absolute socialism, at least in these countries mentioned, including Singapore ......

The challenge is how much of a socialism there is exactly is not clear. For countries like England and Australia, the election promises plays a big part in their policy or changes.

Even Thailand, those promises of higher rice prices for the farmers are also a form of socialism.

It's largely a mix between both capitalism and socialism.
jwhtan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-05-2014, 12:38 AM   #62
Ong88

Prof SK Ong
 
Ong88's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 10,641
Default

Yes.

I don't really care socialist or capitalistic : man is never perfect hence all socialist systems will be tainted when man tastes power.

Socialist Russia was too big, otw could have been.
__________________



Just because it's a bad idea doesn't mean it won't be a good time.
Use imgur for your photos sharing
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...m.imgur.mobile
Ong88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-05-2014, 05:51 PM   #63
BubbleBubble
Senior Dragon
 
BubbleBubble's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 4,401
Default

Ha... I give it to u lorkun. The economic inefficiencies by removing pricing mechanisms mean doc and road sweeper same pay u surely cannot accept. Ha... More so the allocation in its place instead wif political influence made far more conducive to tyranny... as in Cuba and north Korea... the only 2 countries applying socialism fully.

Full capitalism can also fail... cos nobody can be altruistic all the time... there goes the counter argument.

I should start a new thread and where got time, right? Ha... so let's get on with it... write short short go figure the rest way.

Yes... a mix... I was hoping someone would say sweden or even denmark... successful socialist democracies where private enterprises fund multitudes of programs aim at making peoples' lives better... and sweden was talking potatoes when it started hor... not even trade routes and deep water port which we got before we even started. Ha... then i can say why is tis govt telling us to go wif switzerland? Think.

Now... socialism and capitalism can work hand in hand... so what went wrong for Singapore in recent times... starting wif GCT? The balance is wrong? The tilt is incorrect? We got stuck in equilibrium? None is true... as long as u got people who can do the math... and tis PM is a trained mathematician. So what went wrong?

I tell u... trying to get corporatism in the mix is wat went wrong. Why?

Really need a new thread... where got time... shortest short... corporatism must be corrupt... and I'll leave it at tat.

Last edited by BubbleBubble; 22-05-2014 at 05:54 PM.
BubbleBubble is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-05-2014, 06:07 PM   #64
Auratus
Arofanatic
 
Auratus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 134
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BubbleBubble View Post
None is true... as long as u got people who can do the math... and tis PM is a trained mathematician. ....trying to get corporatism in the mix is wat went wrong. Why?
Absolutely blinded by greed?
Auratus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 22-05-2014, 06:09 PM   #65
BubbleBubble
Senior Dragon
 
BubbleBubble's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 4,401
Default

Absolutely...
BubbleBubble is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-05-2014, 02:33 AM   #66
Ong88

Prof SK Ong
 
Ong88's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 10,641
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BubbleBubble View Post
Ha... I give it to u lorkun. The economic inefficiencies by removing pricing mechanisms mean doc and road sweeper same pay u surely cannot accept. Ha... More so the allocation in its place instead wif political influence made far more conducive to tyranny... as in Cuba and north Korea... the only 2 countries applying socialism fully.



... shortest short... corporatism must be corrupt... and I'll leave it at tat.
Every human is innately programmed with self-interest.

Man is inherently corrupt.
Socialised from young as democrat or communist or socialist or gay or hetero atheist/gnostic : regardless the pavlovian training and societal indoctrination : the deep seated darwinian self preservation and ultimate goal of genetic spread/perpetuation manifests as greed.

In socialist Russia the black market was run by officials : proles can eat shit if no money. You forgotten or you didn't know?

Cuba, yes almost utopian. But you won't be getting the next big idea or game changer from that egalitarian cookie cutter.

But NK? Are you figgin kiddin yourself? Idiocracy the movie will be coming true there within 100 years if we let them cocoon long enough.
__________________



Just because it's a bad idea doesn't mean it won't be a good time.
Use imgur for your photos sharing
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...m.imgur.mobile

Last edited by Ong88; 24-05-2014 at 02:39 AM.
Ong88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-05-2014, 02:55 AM   #67
Ong88

Prof SK Ong
 
Ong88's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 10,641
Default

YouTube Video
ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.

Yes.
Found it.
But song recording shitty.

This one clear lyrics.
YouTube Video
ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.




No way you find a socialist raising his art/game without a gun to his back or privileges as carrot.

Equilitarian systems breed mediocrity, no need to stand out : don't disturb the equilibrium.
__________________



Just because it's a bad idea doesn't mean it won't be a good time.
Use imgur for your photos sharing
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...m.imgur.mobile

Last edited by Ong88; 24-05-2014 at 03:01 AM.
Ong88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-05-2014, 10:17 AM   #68
BubbleBubble
Senior Dragon
 
BubbleBubble's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 4,401
Default

U can have the floor lorkun.
BubbleBubble is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-05-2014, 05:00 PM   #69
Aris
Arofanatic
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 119
Default

Roy Ngerng's Message: Defamation Suit From Singapore Prime Minister

YouTube Video
ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.
Aris is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 24-05-2014, 05:40 PM   #70
Ong88

Prof SK Ong
 
Ong88's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 10,641
Default

He should have filmed in one take and unedited.
__________________



Just because it's a bad idea doesn't mean it won't be a good time.
Use imgur for your photos sharing
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...m.imgur.mobile
Ong88 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +9. The time now is 03:48 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Copyright © 2000-2008 Arofanatics.com (Since 30th August 2000)