LTA issues tender for satellite-based ERP system;

[richardg]

Originally Posted by amkbettafan

A few other parameters can be used

1. The IP address issued to the device may indicate the general area, very inaccurate though. This is generally how telco knows where a handphone is with 3g/4g data

interesting, how does this work? any reference?

afaik, telco only knows where the phone by which cell sector(s) the phone connects to.

2. The WiFi signal that the device is currently connected to the nearest access point. More popular for indoor tracking

All no need GPS, especially no 2 since no satellite signal can go inside building.

There are products out there that are made of lead eg faraday cage, that shield a smartphone from being track, popular with human rights or privacy advocates or simply paranoid people. Maybe can try on the new IU device

err.. off the phone can?


afaik the new IU is gps based.
To get better location accuracy extra beacons may be used to augment the GPS ( eg Differential GPS).
where this is not possible eg high interference etc
Inertial Navigation System may be used. This is a dead reckoning system using gyros ( compass ) and accelerometers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Differential_GPS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inerti...igation_system

Some speculation.
Most probably the new IU does much more than the present IU.
Since there is post pay system, it means the chargeable record will be stored within the IU and uploaded/sync with backend when there is data connection.
If done this way, privacy is lost only on charegable routes.
The new IU will hold exception records also, like if the IU is switched off, or if the IU cannot connect to the GPS system but the car has been moving for a long time ( INS). This is for fraud detection.

Disable IU Fraud
Hence the vehicle cannot be driven into basement carpark where there is no GPS and switched off without being detected ( needs a small battery to keep the IU alive)
This will be logged and also detected at enforcement points.

Swapped IU Fraud
Probably at enforcement points and/or govt carparks

[globalcookie]

No plans yet to price road usage islandwide under next-gen ERP system: Khaw
BYKENNETH CHENG

kennethcjw@mediacorp.com.sg

PUBLISHED:*3:17 PM, MARCH 14, 2016


SINGAPORE — While the next-generation Electronic Road Pricing (ERP) system — slated for implementation from 2020 — allows for islandwide coverage, the Government’s intent for the moment is to price only congested roads, Transport Minister Khaw Boon Wan said in Parliament on Monday (March 14).

Mr Khaw was answering a question by Member of Parliament Lee Bee Wah (Nee Soon GRC) on whether the new system would result in road pricing that is based on road use during office hours.

The technology of the new system, Mr Khaw said, would allow the Government to implement congestion pricing based on the distance motorists travel, making it “fairer” to them. “For example, motorists who travel the full stretch of a congested road can be charged more than those who travel, say, only a part of it,” he said.

Asked by Dr Lee whether plans are afoot to review the annual road tax and Certificate of Entitlement system to offset any additional costs incurred by motorists under the new system, Mr Khaw said it was too early to comment on the new system’s impact and whether adjustments should be made to any existing tax policy.


expected what.... 2020 is what year? 2021 or 2022 we won't know la....

[Auratus]

Originally Posted by globalcookie

expected what.... 2020 is what year? 2021 or 2022 we won't know la....

This is not CPF issue, so should be much earlier, especially when it's about revenue.

[Kohaku]

Originally Posted by Auratus

This is not CPF issue, so should be much earlier, especially when it's about revenue.

Lol.... I dun think so.

I feel that they still need to address the technical issues that is still outstanding before they install. They wont want ppl to complain that the system crap and not accurate right? Lost more money like that. Once installed, there is not turning back.

[globalcookie]

GE2015 + 5 = 2020. They won't start 2020 or earlier... but 2021 or later, duno liao... maybe 2020 lagi higher endorsement for them.

[millenium]

Tag every baby from birth and everyone entering the country like an aro. Will this work?

[hkh]

Originally Posted by millenium

Tag every baby from birth and everyone entering the country like an aro. Will this work?

All babies born here got cert.......all people moveing in and out of here need document.......still need tags ??

[globalcookie]

Righteous Brothers wanted to tag all their citizens years ago. I won't even be surprise it happens one fine day.

Today, no need tag. Ur hp or any mobile devise on or gps on, as good as tracking is on.