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Old 22-04-2008, 01:04 PM   #1
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Default Dosages & Price Comparison Of Anti-Chloramine

Dosages of treatment per 20L
Summary


Genesis = 0.31ml
Prime = 0.5ml
Ocean free Newater Guard =1ml
Aqumedi Guardian =1.2 ml
Nutrafin aquaplus = 5.75ml
Bio stress guard = 7.5 ml

Prices of treatment per 20L
Summary

GENESIS = $0.010582
PRIME = $0.0175
OCEANFREE NEWATER GUARD = $0.0235
AQUMEDI GUARDIAN = $0.05
BIO STRESS GUARD = $0.071428
NUTRAFIN AQUAPLUS = $0.114284

WORKINGS
Genesis = $4 / 7560litres x 20 = 0.010582 cents(calculated from usa $4 for 118ml)
Prime = $17.50 / 20000 x 20 = 0.0175 cents(calculated from $12 for 500 ml)
Ocean free Newater guard = $47/40000 x 20 = 0.0235 cents(calculated from $47 for 2000ml)
Aqumedi guardian = $4.8 / 1920 x 20 = 0.05 cents(calculated from $4 per 120ml)
Nutrafin aquaplus(anti-chloramine dose) = $5 / 875 x 20 = 0.114284 cents ( calculated from $5 per 250ml)
Bio stress guard = $18/ 5040 x 20 = 0.071428 ( 1 cap is 15 ml. Their estimation is bull shit)(calculated from $18 per 2000ml)

*20 L = 1 conventional red pail
* assumption that recommended dosage stated in label is reliable in treating chloramines
*Information does not signify which works better in treating your water qualitatively
*prices may vary from one place to another
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Old 27-04-2008, 02:42 PM   #2
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Good Work.
I'm sticking this thread and hope the data can be expanded and updated regularly.
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Old 27-04-2008, 05:21 PM   #3
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Mod, any chance to sticky this info too?

"We are concerned with 2 things in tap water. Chlorine and chloramine. As we know, chlorine can be removed by aging and aeration or adding anti-chlorine which removes it instantly.

We need to be aware and understand that anti-chlorine products vary differently. It is noticeable that the technology improves over time with point 3. being the latest technology.

1. Some only remove chlorine.

2. Some remove both clorine and chloramine only. For chlorine removal, there is no byproducts but as chloramine is chemically stable, unbreaking the bonds would release ammonia. An example of this product is Fritz Guard. This must be used with Fritz Ammonia Remover to neutralize toxic ammonia prior to the introduction of aquatic life. Therefore, 2 products are now required to keep the water safe.

3. There are few 3-in-1s. A few products can remove both chlorine and chloramine and detoxify the ammonia. Seachem Prime is an example."



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Hydher, for api stresscoat.

According to the directions
To remove chlorine and neutralize chloramine
5ml per 38L.
which is =~ 2.63ml per 20L.

to help repair damaged skin and fins and replace slime coating

10ml per 38L
which is =~5.26ml per 20L


C328 price $13.00 for 473ml bottle.
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Old 28-04-2008, 11:36 AM   #4
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Dosages of treatment per 20L
Summary


Genesis = 0.31ml
Prime = 0.5ml
Ocean free Newater Guard =1ml
Aqumedi Guardian =1.2 ml
Api stresscoat = 2.631579 ml
Nutrafin aquaplus = 5.75ml
Bio stress guard = 7.5 ml

Prices of treatment per 20L
Summary

GENESIS = $0.010582
PRIME = $0.0175
OCEANFREE NEWATER GUARD = $0.0235
AQUMEDI GUARDIAN = $0.05
BIO STRESS GUARD = $0.071428
API STRESSCOAT = $ 0.072327
NUTRAFIN AQUAPLUS = $0.114284


WORKINGS
Genesis = $4 / 7560litres x 20 = 0.010582 cents(calculated from usa $4 for 118ml)
Prime = $17.50 / 20000 x 20 = 0.0175 cents(calculated from $12 for 500 ml)
Ocean free Newater guard = $47/40000 x 20 = 0.0235 cents(calculated from $47 for 2000ml)
Aqumedi guardian = $4.8 / 1920 x 20 = 0.05 cents(calculated from $4 per 120ml)
Bio stress guard = $18/ 5040 x 20 = 0.071428 ( 1 cap is 15 ml. Their estimation is bull shit)(calculated from $18 per 2000ml)
Api stresscoat = =13/3594.8*20 = 0.072327
Nutrafin aquaplus = $5 / 875 x 20 = 0.114284 cents ( calculated from $5 per 250ml)
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20 L = 1 conventional red pail

I could not fill the conventional red pail with 8 pet bottles of 1.5 litre each. So I guess the pail can only take about 12 litres to the brim at most .
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1 pet bottle is 2l. =.=
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Old 13-10-2008, 10:50 PM   #7
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i thought 1.5l? maybe there's different brands, but the common coke brand is 1.5l right? anyway, ocean free Fish guard not good because it doesn't remove the ammonia? any opinions on this? i just bought a new 120ml bottle.. boo... i'm using it mainly for my only betta..
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Hi Thanks for the info,

Wil keep the data,

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nice info, can any bros help to confirm if overdose will be harmful to our beloved fishes?
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nice info, can any bros help to confirm if overdose will be harmful to our beloved fishes?
how would we know? we are not a scientist. Chloramines levels may differ as much as the composition of your conditioner over different times and brands. So how much is enough? Too subjective to be discussed. No definite answers, just experiences with different brands. Dun have to be too scientific about it as many fish can tolerate some levels and over time due to ageing and dilution the levels will drop. Just follow the labels and monitor your fish. If possible, invest in a kit to check for the levels of chloramine and other parameters for valued or expensive fish. Direct your efforts to other parameters like food, not too drastic water change, stress from traffic n other fishes disturbing it.

fyi, many are overdosing on prime(a conditioner brand) on aro tanks. From my exp, bros who drop prime on e fins of long tailed fighting fishes, notices a hole in the tail.

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