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Old 12-08-2017, 10:23 AM   #1
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Default Glucosamine supplements don’t help knee or hip arthritis pain

By Carolyn Crist

(Reuters Health) - Oral glucosamine, a natural supplement often marketed for joint pain, has no more effect than a dummy pill, according to a new review of available research.

The analysis of randomized controlled trials from which data have been made public found that at both three-month and 24-month follow-up points, the supplement had no effect on either hip or knee pain from arthritis.

Even analyses of the results for sub-groups of study participants, such as overweight people or those with high inflammation, found no benefit with the supplements.

“Most recent guidelines conclude there is an overall lack of efficacy of glucosamine, however, we knew that osteoarthritis could affect subgroups differently,” said senior study author Sita Bierma-Zeinstra of Erasmus University Medical Center in Rotterdam, the Netherlands.

The most recent report from the U.S. National Center for Health Statistics found that Americans spent nearly $13 billion in 2012 on natural product supplements, and glucosamine was one of the most popular.

The Osteoarthritis Research Society International and the U.S. National Institute for Health and Care Excellence recently issued guidance about the lack of evidence for glucosamine as a cure for joint pain.

“Before we threw the baby out with the bathwater, however, it was important to know whether different subgroups could have some effect,” Bierma-Zeinstra told Reuters Health by email.

The researchers analyzed data from randomized, controlled trials conducted between 1994 and 2014. Of the 21 studies they found on the subject, only six shared data through the OA Trial Bank, an international collection of data from trials conducted worldwide. None of the trials included in the analysis was funded by industry, the authors note.

Five of the trials, which altogether included more than 1,600 patients, compared glucosamine with a placebo. Five of the six studies investigated knee osteoarthritis, and one looked at hip osteoarthritis.

Overall, the effects of glucosamine and the placebo on pain and physical functioning didn’t differ, either in the short-term or one or two years later. The supplement was also no better than placebo among subgroups based on pain severity, severity of osteoarthritis, age, body mass index, gender or signs of inflammation.

“Of course, the most striking thing in this study is that when a commercial party funded the source, data sharing became difficult,” Bierma-Zeinstra said. “Open access to data from clinical studies, although propagated by many research organizations worldwide, is still far from common practice.”

In addition, the researchers found that data for a study published in 2006 was no longer available. Although data from older studies may disappear, that doesn’t often happen with recent ones, she added.

The research team plans to update subgroup data in the OA Trial Bank every five years. They’ll continue to contact clinical trial researchers to encourage them to contribute data to the project.

Future studies should look more closely at knee versus hip osteoarthritis and specific supplement types such as glucosamine sulfate versus glucosamine hydrochloride, the Bierma-Zeinstra’s team writes in the Annals of the Rheumatic Diseases.

“Consumers should be cautious about spending money on unproven treatments,” said Dr. C. Kent Kwoh, director of the University of Arizona Arthritis Center in Tucson.

For instance, side effects of glucosamine include heartburn, drowsiness, headaches, allergic reactions, weight gain, diarrhea and abdominal pain, said Kwoh, who wasn’t involved in the study.

“Most consumers believe that, as a ‘natural product,’ glucosamine is safe, but there are potential side effects,” he told Reuters Health by email. “There is very little evidence that oral glucosamine is beneficial for pain.”
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Old 12-08-2017, 03:10 PM   #2
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I just threw away two bottles in my fridge after reading your post.
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Old 12-08-2017, 03:37 PM   #3
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I think use those products which contain it for external apply may still help.
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Old 12-08-2017, 03:44 PM   #4
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I think use those products which contain it for external apply may still help.
There are research that shows that these can be orally absorbed to a certain extent. But likelihood is they dun work.
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Old 12-08-2017, 05:26 PM   #5
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work for 30% of the people taking it ....... mostly placebo
70% feels no effect at all

same goes for other supplements like collagen
u take collagen, it doesn't become collagen in your body
ur body simply breaks them down into amino acids
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Old 12-08-2017, 11:58 PM   #6
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I think those which apply external and kena absorb helps to certain extent. It is just like knee pain or ache, apply yoko-yoko and the pain will be relieve.
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Old 13-08-2017, 01:58 AM   #7
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Said that a million times but nobody believes me.... People just throw me that dirty look

Joint wear out liao cannot be rebuilt back. So far most promising way is stem cell, or grow another new knee in the lab using our own dna.
But I heard success rate not high even for stem cells too.

And Barney is right, commercial brands collagen cannot be absorbed into the body for its beauty effects... Women just gets angry
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Old 14-08-2017, 12:48 AM   #8
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Said that a million times but nobody believes me.... People just throw me that dirty look

Joint wear out liao cannot be rebuilt back. So far most promising way is stem cell, or grow another new knee in the lab using our own dna.
But I heard success rate not high even for stem cells too.

And Barney is right, commercial brands collagen cannot be absorbed into the body for its beauty effects... Women just gets angry
Glucosamine is a complex structure which cannot be absorbed whole by intestines.

It's digested and then the byproducts can pass thru intestinal linings into our blood circulation.

Uneducated common sense will tell us that it's impossible to deliver it to diseased joints via oral route.

Some ppl have improved symptoms after oral glucosamine, placebo in some perhaps, but I belief not all.

Myself I find it works when I hv aches.

Postulate that some are more blessed than others and their body physiology can miraculously reassemble glucosamine at target joints.
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Glucosamine is a complex structure which cannot be absorbed whole by intestines.

It's digested and then the byproducts can pass thru intestinal linings into our blood circulation.

Uneducated common sense will tell us that it's impossible to deliver it to diseased joints via oral route.

Some ppl have improved symptoms after oral glucosamine, placebo in some perhaps, but I belief not all.

Myself I find it works when I hv aches.

Postulate that some are more blessed than others and their body physiology can miraculously reassemble glucosamine at target joints.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12359162

This human study shows that chondrotin (chain of glucosamines) sulphate can be absorbed as small fragments of glucosamine by healthy humans by plasma measurement after human subjects ingested it. There are quite a few animal studies on rat, horse and dog that also suggested absorption by the oral route is possible. But whether ingested glucosamine can reach the cartilages and they do the repair job is not clearly known.
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Old 14-08-2017, 10:28 AM   #10
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Yoko yoko is good for muscle ache leh. If cartilage worn out, yoko yoko won't help.

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